http://www.clicknewz.com/2721/blog-c...ting-strategy/

Chris should we take bets on how long it takes for someone to tell us about their wonderful blog comment marketing strategy? Then again since none those words are mentioned in the thread title, maybe this thread will attract a different group of people.

Great article by the way.

thx for share such a great info dear.



(but seriously anyone that does blog commenting as a "marketing" strategy is just plain out stupid.)

How is blog commenting any different from this strategy:

Let’s take Guest Blogging for example. That will allow you to optimize the page (post) linking to yours for a specific keyword phrase. You write the content yourself, so you know it will be a relevant link. The link you include in your post will likely be the only outbound link in the content area (win!). And your quality, relevant inbound link (with anchor text of your choice) is in the space on the page that carries the most weight: the content area.

Yes, your keyword appears in context as opposed to a blog comment, but a blog comment is a lot less work. I don't see the comparison. You could also wright an article at ezine to get 2 links. What's the difference? I don't see the difference.

"Imagine for a second that you have an offline business downtown. Maybe it’s a computer shop or a bakery. Now imagine that you spend all day every day walking down the street and stepping into each business along the way. You make random comments to the customers in those businesses, such as “Hi, I have a bakery three doors down” and then walk out."

Oh! I love this comparison.I hate blog commenting,however, I like reading blogs but I hate the moderation part.

Originally Posted by marknel

"Imagine for a second that you have an offline business downtown. Maybe it’s a computer shop or a bakery. Now imagine that you spend all day every day walking down the street and stepping into each business along the way. You make random comments to the customers in those businesses, such as “Hi, I have a bakery three doors down” and then walk out."

Oh! I love this comparison.I hate blog commenting,however, I like reading blogs but I hate the moderation part.

I appreciate the insight Mark. But could you be a little more specific please. I don't get it.

Originally Posted by vangogh

Chris should we take bets on how long it takes for someone to tell us about their wonderful blog comment marketing strategy? Then again since none those words are mentioned in the thread title, maybe this thread will attract a different group of people.

Great article by the way.

Hi Steven. I'm not going to mention anything about a "wonderful blog comment marketing strategy" But I will say this, blog commenting (on high pr do follow blogs) does improve your rankings. I've tested this. And you can refer to it as a bottom feeder technique, or unethical.

But it does work to improve your rankings. I've tested it, and the results are consistent.

I won't get into all of the details, because it will always be debated. But it does produce results.

But it does work to improve your rankings. I've tested it,

Of course they do, we know that.

However like "link wheels", "pyramids", "article banks" etc etc their "useful" lifetime is fleeting, and once discovered and discounted by search engines your "rankings" will take a very short walk of a very steep cliff, and you are then asking questions such as:
"Why does Google hate me"? or "My rankings dropped and my "Google earnings" have dried up. Why is this"?
And of course by following such tactics you are making it ridiculously asy for your "great system" to be discovered and discounted from the "link graph" for your page. With or without a rel="nofollow".


"dofollow" does not exist by the way.

Originally Posted by chrishirst

"dofollow" does not exist by the way.

And for those that argue with this:

http://www.w3schools.com/tags/default.asp

No dofollow tags and...

http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_a_rel.asp

No dofollow attribute!

Originally Posted by mpw45233

How is blog commenting any different from this strategy:

Let’s take Guest Blogging for example. That will allow you to optimize the page (post) linking to yours for a specific keyword phrase. You write the content yourself, so you know it will be a relevant link. The link you include in your post will likely be the only outbound link in the content area (win!). And your quality, relevant inbound link (with anchor text of your choice) is in the space on the page that carries the most weight: the content area.

Yes, your keyword appears in context as opposed to a blog comment, but a blog comment is a lot less work. I don't see the comparison. You could also wright an article at ezine to get 2 links. What's the difference? I don't see the difference.

The differences are explained in the article you're quoting from!

blog commenting (on high pr do follow blogs) does improve your rankings

I'm not sure anyone suggested otherwise, however…

high pr blogs without rel=nofollow" applied are not all blogs. That's a small subset of blogs. Improving rankings leads to questions like how much does it help and could the time necessary for those comments be put to better use.

With the first question I think the answer depends on the competitive landscape. In an industry where your competition doesn't have many or any links then the links from the blog comments probably help. If you're in a competitive industry where everyone has links, I doubt the blog comments would be significant.

As for the second question I think there are most likely better ways to spend your time to get a better return on your investment.

Originally Posted by mpw45233

... But it does work to improve your rankings. I've tested it, and the results are consistent...

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Of course they do, we know that. However... their "useful" lifetime is fleeting...

Lots of people are too worried about getting money right now, to care much about the future, or about ethics. If they can profit right now, they will do it. The only way to stop spam is to make it unprofitable.

Originally Posted by chrishirst

... "dofollow" does not exist by the way.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Hamlet Act 1, scene 5, 159–167

I read that article link. I'm confused, almost all of the Link building strategies were abused by spammers

Originally Posted by PaulW

The differences are explained in the article you're quoting from!

Yes I know, I acknowledged it here:

Originally Posted by mpw45233

Yes, your keyword appears in context as opposed to a blog comment, but a blog comment is a lot less work.

Originally Posted by chrishirst

"dofollow" does not exist by the way.

Originally Posted by dWhite

And for those that argue with this:

http://www.w3schools.com/tags/default.asp

No dofollow tags and...

http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_a_rel.asp

No dofollow attribute!

I know do follow blogs don't exist, I was just trying to stir up some controversy...

Originally Posted by vangogh

I'm not sure anyone suggested otherwise, however…

Nobody said otherwise, but the first 2 comments clearly demonstrate a demeaning attitude toward anyone who does blog commenting. Maybe some more constructive comments next time.

The comments weren't meant to be a demeaning attitude toward blog commenting, but rather toward the usual advice to go leave meaningless comments on blogs just for the sake of a link. Usually a thread like this fills up with one useless comment after another about commenting on blogs as a marketing or seo strategy. The advice almost never considers the value of the comment itself and leads people to drop meaningless one liners on blogs that add nothing.

I can't speak for others, but if you leave a meaningless comment on my blog or attempt to optimize the anchor text in the link around your url, your comment is likely getting deleted. If it happens more than once your comment gets reported as spam.

Originally Posted by vangogh

... if you leave a meaningless comment on my blog or attempt to optimize the anchor text in the link around your url... your comment gets reported as spam.

Why should anyone wish to optimize his anchor text on your nofollow blog?

Can you suggest what is/are the best thing to do?

Originally Posted by vangogh

The comments weren't meant to be a demeaning attitude toward blog commenting, but rather toward the usual advice to go leave meaningless comments on blogs just for the sake of a link. Usually a thread like this fills up with one useless comment after another about commenting on blogs as a marketing or seo strategy. The advice almost never considers the value of the comment itself and leads people to drop meaningless one liners on blogs that add nothing.

I can't speak for others, but if you leave a meaningless comment on my blog or attempt to optimize the anchor text in the link around your url, your comment is likely getting deleted. If it happens more than once your comment gets reported as spam.

I don't leave meaningless comments on anybodies blog. If I did then I'd search out unmoderated blogs and leave my links next to the other (endless lists) of spam links.

I'm extremely knowledgable about my niche and I always have something meaningful to say.

Many do follow blogs (I know there's no such thing ) are set up like that on purpose to encourage comments..ie-Comment Luv blogs. They're even set up so you can leave your real name plus anchor text...like Michael from "keyword phrase."

Btw, I could be wrong, but I think some people on this forum are still under the impression that they're sig links are getting crawled and counted as backlinks.

So Chris, do you have any resources where I could perhaps hookup with someone who would like a well written article in exchange for 2 in context back links.

I feel like this thread got a little side tracked. But I do appreciate your point.

So...Got a link?

Originally Posted by chrishirst

Of course they do, we know that.

However like "link wheels", "pyramids", "article banks" etc etc their "useful" lifetime is fleeting, and once discovered and discounted by search engines your "rankings" will take a very short walk of a very steep cliff, and you are then asking questions such as:
"Why does Google hate me"? or "My rankings dropped and my "Google earnings" have dried up. Why is this"?
And of course by following such tactics you are making it ridiculously asy for your "great system" to be discovered and discounted from the "link graph" for your page. With or without a rel="nofollow".


"dofollow" does not exist by the way.

I probably shouldn't even comment on this....BUT...I'm sure Google is already aware of blog commenting. And whatever measures they want to take, I'm sure they're already taking. It's not that hard to do and I'm sure it's not something they have to figure out.

So if they make my blog comment links worthless tomorrow...that's ok I have other link sources...and it would probably hurt my competitors more than me.

Most of the measures they've been taking lately seem to cover on site seo more than anything, and I've benefited from it a lot.

And you're right, my rankings could dissapear tomorrow, but I can't controll tomorrow, and I just do the best I can today.