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Old 06-20-2008, 06:53 PM Re: Minimum Knowledge?
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very good point.. dealing with open source bugs and being able to dig down into them and understand databases are definitely a top priority.

So that wasnt my intended message.. that all you gotta do is learn a good CMS.. you are very correct.. Web "development" is bigger than 10 breadbaskets.. thats for sure..

Actually a buddy of mine and I were talking about what are some of the CORE SKILLS a web developer should have..

we both agreeded in the top 5 were:
1. A proper understanding of the difference between CLIENT SIDE and SERVER SIDE programming
2. An even more proper understand of how HTTP works (at least basic!!)
3. How to use a source control environment
4. How to visualize form from function
and 5. Pick something to be a zealot about.. I mean, its all about being fanatically attached to some technology.. aint it??

(okay that last one was not a real recommendation but it seems the norm for sure!)
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:57 PM Re: Minimum Knowledge?
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My mother always told me to do something right or not at all and programming, my deepest passion, is something I prefer to encourage people to "do right or not at all."
I whole heartedly agree. Well, to be honest, I never met your mother, so I'm taking your word on that part. You could in theory be lying - maybe your mother never taught you that at all! But the idea that we should all just use a code generator to write god awful programs for us is scary. I even think the biggest down side to .NET is how easy it is to pick up and start coding, encouraging people who have no business writing code to do exactly that.

But why do we write software? It's not just to have bits flying through transistors. We're trying to achieve something, not to have processes flirting with other processes. I'd even abstract $$$ away, because a lot of us (me, anyway) will write a smallish program because something is an interesting challenge, and we want to try it.

Anyway, I'm not trying to intrude on anybody's argument - I just like sharing theory. Sometimes I have something valuable to say, and plenty of the time other people can help me pick up a new idea, or shed a bad one I've been carrying around. On that note, theory wise, I think it's better to put one's time into producing something innovative, whatever that might be. And I think there are legit short cuts you can take, to give yourself more time to work on the high priority stuff. A system that's been developed and tested can be one of them.

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Old 06-20-2008, 06:59 PM Re: Minimum Knowledge?
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and 5. Pick something to be a zealot about.. I mean, its all about being fanatically attached to some technology.. aint it??

(okay that last one was not a real recommendation but it seems the norm for sure!)
I like that, actually. I had a math professor who, when giving me guidance, told me that his happiest day in mathematics was the day he realized that he couldn't learn it all. That what he needed to do was pick a niche and become extremely good at it. I often use that story. Now, he was, of course, implying a solid understanding of the foundational concepts.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:20 PM Re: Minimum Knowledge?
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Well Id say its fairly impossible to even keep up with programming technologies, let alone have a chance at being an expert in everything.

Its like.. I keep my eye on Java stuff, read the blogs and listen to a podcast here and there.. occasionally Ill mess with java for embedded stuff.. just cause its neat.. but there is SOO MUCH OUT THERE.. I mean it just boggles the mind..
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