Coding Forum

**david** · 07-31-2002, 06:32 PM

I just had a look at your page and it seems that the problem is that your whole site is inside a layer (<DIV> tag) which was positioned in the top left corner of the page. Becuase of this, when you centered your content, it centered inside the layer, but as the layer was smaller than the browser window, it did not appear this way.

I removed the layer and centered the table, and got the result shown in the attatched file. Unfortunately, this meant that a lot of your content was misaligned.

Although this isn't the site review forum, I'd like to suggest that you take a look at your code and maybe make a few changes to it. I know its just a development design at the moment, so it doesn't really matter, but when you finish setting it up you should tidy it all up a bit. You've got about 5 <body> tags, and this could cause quite a lot of problems in some browsers.

Back to your problem of centering the site, though, it might work better if you decide to use either layers or tables but not both. Quite often you'll have desing problems (like the one you have experienced) which mixing the two.

Hope that solves the problem.

**ghettocars** · 07-31-2002, 07:40 PM

hmm yes everything does get misaligned. Thanks a lot though, david.

I just made the site with <DIV's> because it is sooo much easier to align and position things but ill be changing it around a bit soon...hmm i just wish there was another way to this.

something like...
if user resolution = 1024x768 {THEN make everything <center>}
LOL

**fonzerelli_79** · 08-01-2002, 11:36 PM

i personally think its a mistake to forget about netscape users

i check my site on IE, netscape and opera

im not too sure why everyone hates netscape too much, i presonally use opera most of the time but i do use netscape from time to time and its good - really, if you havent tried these browsers, go to cnet and download them

opera is fantastic - the only problem is so many sites dont care about the people who use them and it goes against everything the internet was design ed for - for everyone

to be honest, its not to hard to get your site optimised for all browsers - there are certain tags that dont work in netscape and some mozilla derivatives and the best thing to do is not use those tags

seriously, give opera a try for a week and youll notice that its much faster and your able to open multiple windows within the same opera window

(p.s. i dont work for any of these companies- lol

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**ghettocars** · 08-04-2002, 09:24 PM

lol i just checked my stats and 3% are netscape...interesting.

**TimSchroeder** · 08-04-2002, 11:02 PM

In case you are curious, 6.8% of our members currently use Netscape. I did read an article in a magazine that did say good things about Netscape 6. I'll still stick with IE though. Some good points have been made in this thread however.

**conkermaniac** · 08-06-2002, 10:29 PM

Hi,

I always check my sites with IE and Mozilla. I actually split my time between using Mozilla (especially when I'm about to access pop-up filled websites) and IE. Undoubtedly, more software supports IE than Mozilla, and I personally feel that IE is a bit faster than Mozilla.

The biggest bummer about Mozilla is the fact that Flash has never created a Mozilla-compatible version. Even vB inteferes with my ability to use Mozilla. Has anybody ever tried viewing the vB "post" screen on multiple browsers? It turns out that vB participates in a bit of "browser racism". They define different sizes for their "enter message" textarea, depending on the browser. While it looks nice and wide on IE, it is narrow and ugly on Mozilla. This wouldn't be that troublesome if it weren't for the fact that the box doesn't wrap copied+pasted material well at all.

Anyway, I definitely agree that Netscape is slowly fading away, but still, the majority of Internet users has heard of IE and Netscape, but never Opera nor Mozilla (ask any of my classmates, for example). Though more webmasters and other experienced PC users have started experimenting with new browsers, the less Internet-savvy people will still continue to use the better-marketed IE and Netscape. This is why it is important to design for IE and Netscape before other browsers, if you are catering towards the average Internet user.