ok strange error. im not really sure how to fix this.

it is only happening in IE6, ive tested IE7, safari, opera, firefox and isnt happening in any of those browsers.




here is are 3 screenshots i took in ie6 to help explain what i mean


saving-health.com/error.jpg
saving-health.com/error1.jpg
saving-health.com/error2.jpg


sometimes IE6 repeats the background like that on a fresh reload, sometimes it doesnt. the code isnt set to repeat that background.


for some reason, as soon as you scroll up or down, everything gets massively distorted and blurs like crazy- but only the text and images that are under my (fixed position non scrolling) background. at first i thought the issue had something to do with the backgrounds of both frames repeating horizontally, but to work around that i made two massive width png's and set them to not repeat. it still didnt work around the issue




i found somewhere that you could add the following to the top of your css/style declaration to workaround this bug :


* {
position:relative
}


although sometimes that does work on my site, other times it completely crashes IE6 (not to mention it messing up some of the spacings for the popup menus im using)


(i think that this is being caused by the fact that my site is using frames, and that at the top frame there is a css image replacement/rollover being used on the menus. but as far as to how to resolve it i am clueless.)


if i remove the background from the bottom (main) frame, the problem goes away. ideas?

* {
position:relative
}

That would be a bad idea and I doubt it would fix anything, probably make an even bigger mess of things.

Can we have a URL or the code ?? No one can do a thing with images

Blame the slow rendering engine in IE6.

Clear your cache and optimise the images for size

* {
position:relative
}

NOT something you should do AT ALL

Originally Posted by LadynRed

That would be a bad idea and I doubt it would fix anything, probably make an even bigger mess of things.

Can we have a URL or the code ?? No one can do a thing with images

it is www.saving-health.com

the top nav bar is nav.php the bottom frame is main.php

Originally Posted by chrishirst

optimise the images for size

what exactly do you mean by this? ive had the bottom background image as both a gif and currently an 8bit png


sorry im not very well versed in graphics lingo, im not really sure what you mean by optimise for size, do you mean the dimensions or the actual filesize? right now that bottom png is like 2.45k

just one bit of advice

LOSE THE FRAMES!!!

Originally Posted by chrishirst

just one bit of advice

LOSE THE FRAMES!!!

you're probably right. if i would have just done that to start with this all would have probably been alot easier, but im really trying to avoid that because ive done so much tinkering to get everything working right with it framed now, that, to undo it all would take sooooo long probably.




i havnt really done much (hardly any at all) webwork since html 4 came out, stuff is so different now. it does seem like virtually noone uses frames anymore. whats the deal with that?

because they always were a truly poor solution to get around a problem that really does not exist any more.

Use server side includes.
The last time I needed to convert a site from frames to includes took less than an hour. You are only removing bits of unnecessary code from your frame pages.

I've got the same problem - viewable here:
www.aventwest.com

Please note that I'm not using frames outright, rather, the URL is being forwarded using frames by Network Solutions to 1&1 where I host the content (long-story, and it's red-tape that prevents me changing the situation.)

That said, I have a theory that there is a combination of frames + CSS that's causing the problem.

aventwest.com is hosted here:
llebevad.com/AWCM

While trying to debug, I also forwarded aventwest.com to:
llebevad.com/AWCDC

When loading that page, the scrolling distortion in IE 6 didn't show up.

Any thoughts? Or maybe it's the additional images on aventwest.com?

The "content" is being "hosted" at Geocities for the site you linked to.

Sorry, I pointed it back to an old site so there'd be something useful. I just re-pointed, so it should be back to it's buggy state.

Sorry for any confusion.

I think I talked the folks @ the non-prof to just host/register w/ the same group, which should eliminate the problem.

Regardless, the bug is interesting to see - it's like the page rendering just barfed.