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i figured out why its got that extra space, ( ie7.firefox) im in the process of making a new layout design for my website right now and when i was messing around with css/xhtml i realized that my navbar was in an "unorder-list", and even though i had "{list-style-type: none}" the browser didnt show any bullets or markers but acted as if the list markers were still there, therefore pushing my content to the left even though in my mind i had it centered, but thanks guys for taking the time to help me out , greatly appreciated
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