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Old 06-11-2008, 08:47 PM Market is ocupied, leave market
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Since there are an endless set of web solutions for users to acquire (free or not) i assume all web developers that want to make scripts and get them spread may give up and find other thing to do in their lifes?

What i mean? hmm... would you ever be successful with a new blog system since the market is crowded? I say blog system, but you may say any other script and you will find the market for that area crowded, also some popular scripts/services try to invade all areas they can, so whats left for others? ...zero!!

I think that the probabilities of winning lottery are way higher than the probability of ayone find a place in todays web market...so voila...work out lottery instead.

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Old 06-17-2008, 08:38 AM Re: Market is ocupied, leave market
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That is a lame attitude to take. Webcrawler, Lycos, Hotbot, Askjeeves, Yahoo and probably MSN once all 'saturated' the search engine market until a pair of developers who believed in putting out new ideas in a marketplace brimming with people and hey presto, Google was born and a big hit.

Blog scripts and forums are all very old hat now. Sooner or later the equivalent of google's shift in the search market will happen to the 'talk' market. Social networks thought they WERE that change, when really they're just the final group of ingredients (bookmarking too, and pay-for-content-amateur-writing sites) in the cooking pot of whoever comes up with the biggest internet phenomenon since google.

If you can't be bothered to try, then it certainly won't be you who makes that money. Not that I care. I know it'll be me.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:19 AM Re: Market is ocupied, leave market
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i assume all web developers that want to make scripts and get them spread may give up and find other thing to do in their lifes?
As a webdeveloper (since 1997 in business) running also a website selling self-developed Perl/CGI scripts (http://www.sunnyscript.com) I can't share your thoughts...

Sure, the market is a different one than it was in the "golden years" at the late 1990s. However the market has also grown since then; more and more companies decide for more than just a simple website. And for such interactive e-commerce services they need professional software solutions. Here we are.

Of course, when I remember that at former times a student could write a simple visitor counter and then sell it for a few bucks per license - these times have been gone. Likely forever.

While it seems that some web developers ruin their markets by taking anything to the open source, while at the same time business owners claim that anything is free today. But it isn't... consider a web shop. Someone downloads an open source shopping cart, takes the challenge to install and configure it. So good, so far. Then, after filling the product database with one hundred items, there is an internal error reported by the server. Now, good advise is expensive - this is, where the software developers of open source products get their money from - consulting and services.

It is now the decision of the business owner to either trust an open source product and hire a company for consulting and services or buy a closed source product that comes with support services. Also consider new ways of software distribution; I just want to mention rapid release licensing schemes.

Regardless with or without a growing number of open source tools and free software offers, the market isn't dead. And as long as the Internet is used for business and commercial purposes, it never will die.
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:37 PM Re: Market is ocupied, leave market
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The going rate for a foot-soldier level professional perl programmer in London is £300 to £400 per day ($600 to $800).

So failing to "spread" scripts in an obviously saturated zone (the internet? open source counters and mailers and other rubbish?) could be abandoned in favour of a $144,000 dollar job (building random bits of crap on websites and generally doing so by relying on cpan, for tonnes and tonnes of money).

Alternatively, a thorough understanding of scripting languages like php, asp, perl, and server side issues (eg shell scripts) can enable you to build phenomenally useful websites, which can monetize very rapidly - thus your scripts are paid for by how useful they are - same as with good content.

Furthermore script-writing makes you ever more scientifically minded and just a better person (well okay, that's just a bias now).

The market is by no means "occupied". There is a woman who says that twice every month a 6-month contract is available to me (and anyone else who could write these scripts you mention, whether for blogs or for other, less simplistic software, eg pattern matching instruments like search engines or sales/marketing systems) that pays around $70,000 for those 6 months.

And she was the first one I called.

Programmers (and other technical people) have a secure future. The droves of salespeople who fill our cities are the dead wood... one day, sophisticated semantic software will engender low-level artificial intelligence sharp enough, at least, to put most drone-level jobs into the hands of computers and out of the hands of low-qualification humans.

And whoever produces that software won't have to sell it to make money! There are a thousand ways to make that very software work for you and make you money through countless business processes.
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