eCommerce Tycoon

**yenerich** · 09-22-2006, 02:18 AM

Could anyone share tips for maiking good business with a website (please not people offering affiliates to their own business, im asking REAL experiences)?

Thanks in advance

**The Critic** · 09-22-2006, 04:28 AM

It depends on how you want to make your money (e-business, affiliate, etc) but the best thing to do is go with something you know. If you like MySpace, make one of those pages that gives out layouts and images and get and AdSense account and some affiliate links. If you like macrame you might consider selling your wares online. If you design your site around something you have experience with it saves you so much more time when putting it together because you don't have to try to learn something new.

**Lorelei** · 09-23-2006, 06:21 PM

well, i monetize my website with adsense, its been working very good for me. of course when i just started the traffic was low and the earnings were ridiculous, but with time the site has grown and i get hundreds of dollars monthly. u will need to tweak it a lot and see how does it work best for your site's design. using their optimization tips is best, i follow then and can't complain.

most important is not to place too many ads, because then u have low bids ads display as well and each click turns to be too little.

good luck!

**andrewbowe** · 09-24-2006, 03:48 PM

try and do something you would enjoy more and integrate google adsense into your site meaning that you just have to concentrate on getting good traffic in

**enjoyyourlife** · 09-25-2006, 08:00 PM

I am giving you a link to some videos I recently recieved in my e-mail below:

The videos were produced by Brad Fallen and Andy Jenkins. When I watched the video; I found it to be extremely helpful to me. It talked about ways to increase traffic to your sites and to increase conversions. The video is a series of 3, free to anyone who wants to watch them. My understanding from the e-mail the videos may not be online for long. I hope these videos are as helpful to you as they were to me. It took me approximatly 50 minutes to watch. Here is the site:

http://www.convertlinks.com/vid1.php?weirdvideo

I wish you luck with the information. I also hope to see all of us including myself at the top in Google very soon.

**BishopPaul** · 11:50 AM

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Hi Yenerich:

I'm sort of the newbie around here, but I've been marketing on the Internet since it was
called Arpanet, and the only place you could post something for sale was at a local BBS.

Here's something that might help you out:

Keep your site attractive - nobody wants to pick thru garbage looking for a pearl.

Don't "over-do" it on the flashing, blinking, swirling - and DON'T use banners - people
HATE banners - they've always been useless....

Sell something people can use - you might be the greatest string collector with the most
AMAZING connections to string and string supplies, but how many people will
that attract ??

FORGET about "Niche" - that's a LOSERS BET - if what you have to offer isn't selling -
you're up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle.... or a paycheck

START OUT selling something they can download IMMEDIATELY - like an electronic
eBook (PDF) - and don't be afraid to give away things to get paying customers -
"FREE" goes a l o n g way to attracting clicks -

Keep up with the competition - even if they're selling something you're selling - if it's a better
price, and you're not popular yet - you'd better at least match their price

One good way to attract customers for something that's selling at the same price all over the
Internet is to give away some of those "freebies" i just mentioned (above) - the better quality
product won't always mean people will come running to your site - if there's another product
out there that does somethin similar, and it's cheaper - people can't tell that just by looking at
the picture - they'll go for the lower price every time....

Sell a slightly less quality product at great prices just to get your wares out there, and use the
product to do some verticle marketing - like including in your URL in the eBook, or mentioning
there's a "Part Two" or adding Links inside the product (either as a link or as a typed in
message) - USE that product to promote your NEXT PRODUCT

That's true "verticle marketing"....

I don't mean sell something that's put togeather cheap just to get the purchase -
that may backfire on you -

I mean you should hold back part of it, so you can offer them more in the "next one"....

And, whatever you do - BE HONEST with your customers - just like in the Virtual World - word gets around....

And, of course, I saved tthe most important for last:

WHATEVER YOU DO - DON'T GIVE UP YOUR "LIST" -
IT'S YOUR PAYCHECK YOU'LL BE GIVING AWAY....

I'll write more on that later - just DON'T DO IT

HTH - Bishop Paul....
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**adamjthompson** · 09-29-2006, 08:19 PM

Well, I'd suggest you start by finding a product or service to market that you would be interested in. There are many affiliate programs, dropshippers, and mlm programs, so with some research, you should be able to find a product that interests you.

**BishopPaul** · 06:13 PM

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Adamj:

A.....yah.... about that.... the "sell something you are passionate about" concept:

It's a loser concept - get over it -

No offense, but that's a blind alley the "gurus" have been leading anyone
who will listen down -

In order to really sell people have to want what you have for sale -

How much money will you make if they were interested in something else,
and clicked thru to the "next thing" or the "next web site" ???

Guru HYPE - if you're working a specialty, it leaves them free to develop into
massive campaigns and suck the profits out of other areas before they "recommend it"

You need to stop thinking horizontally - that will only get you to the next block....

Start thinking Vertically - think "outside the box" -

HERE'S the "SECRET" the Marketing "GURUS" will never tell you

I'LL give it to you FOR FREE:

VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN "YOUR" PET PRODUCT

Sure, there's a FEW that have similar interests,

But if you want to MAKE REAL MONEY

FIND SOMETHING PEOPLE WANT

THEN MARKET THAT PRODUCT

TO THAT CROWD....

I think you'll find your conversion rate and your profit margin start to climb
into a more comfortable zone if you do....

See - there's a REASON that the conversion Rate is so low....

AND a way to go around that stumbling block -

(more on that in another post....)

Think about this:

I started up a Mall -

Took my sweet time setting it up -

Took a YEAR (I'm retired - it's a toy for me to play with)

Had NOTHING on the shelves to sell

And still brought in over 177,000 clicks last year....

In fact - I only opened it up this month for the first time
And, I'm still posting products for sale
AND, I haven't started ADVERTISING IT YET -
and so far this year
I'm over 144,000 clicks....

With a 20% conversion rate....

Let me leave you with this parting thought:

SEARS made over $186 BILLION DOLLARS last year

How much did you make ??

Think they had any "Adam J" tee shirts on the rack ??

They had what sells the most

The most popular items are what sell....

THAT'S what they sold last year....

Start Thinking Vertically

BP
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**fitnessk** · 10-03-2006, 09:10 AM

If you want to make money with a website, you need to do your research. Find a product or service that is in high demand. And/Or find a product and service that people really want but for which their are not many businesses offering that product.

If you are going to sign up for affiliate programs, research the company. Make sure that they are a reputable company offering quality products and services.

**cyberbot** · 10-04-2006, 11:13 PM

I learned trial and error works. It’s easy to say that if you follow step 1-3 you will succeed, but that hardly ever is the case with business. Most people who start a business fail the first time. Knowledge and experience is your ultimate tool to financial success!

**forumGuru** · 10-16-2006, 11:49 PM

cyberbot hit the nail on the head. There is no easy route. You need to explore different avenues and learn from your mistakes. At the end of the day though, make sure that you provide a quality product or service because there is no better way of getting customers to keep coming back than to provide outstanding service.

**wiseal1** · 01-19-2007, 04:01 PM

I'll tell you guys some thing that will be benificial to just about any webmaster. If you have a website that's providing a needed service or product that is professionaly translated to a different language that will increase your ability to sell. I did some reasearch on the net and found that more than 50% of people surfing the net speak an read a language other than English and are more likely to buy from a website in the language that is native to them!

**roy77** · 01-19-2007, 09:27 PM

thats not true my friend. I speak both strong english and fluent hebrew ( some spanish and french) and i NEVER buy from hebrew sites ... Put that data in your servery "roy77 doesnt buy from his natives" forther more, i would like to thank Enjoyyolife for bringing those videos. thanks. . .

**starlington** · 01-20-2007, 10:08 AM

Earning that great amount would not be a easy way. Google adsense according to me is the most trusted program to make you earn money. But google adsense will generate good money only if your site is highly viewed and if the viewers click on the ads of google. If you are going to try any other affiliate program also, it is actually going to be the same. How much your viewers are going to click on the ads and how many visitors you can bring on your site.

Ad visiblity and presentablity also plays an important roll here. Ads in your site should not stand out, it should be so matching to your content that viewer should not feel the difference and click the ad.

**SeLFiE_12** · 02-03-2007, 07:33 AM

You should first asked yourself what business you want and if you know almost everything about it and if you have money to start the business...though there are free things that you do to earn money like just limkockchuan said about blogging...

**andrewbowe** · 02-05-2007, 09:42 AM

for a start try selling consumer electronics on ebay and then expand to your own website

**one2** · 02-11-2007, 09:09 AM

Pretty much every post here is informative, aside from product's post. He was a one post hit and run, notice the tinyurl to hide his affiliate link

**dougadam** · 02-12-2007, 04:31 PM

I have found AdSense works ok. But there is more money is selling your own products online.

**Learning Newbie** · 02-13-2007, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by product

I was scammed by 37 different "get
rich quick schemes" and I lost over $3800 in 4 months.

Then obviously you're a complete idiot, and anyone who follows your advice is a moron.

**kriso** · 02-13-2007, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

Then obviously you're a complete idiot, and anyone who follows your advice is a moron.

Man don't scare the fish!
It's a great customer!