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Old 10-02-2007, 12:06 AM Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales?
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Hi there, I am into information, so when I was first introduced to the idea of the internet all those years ago, I was thinking, **** what a great idea!
Although more and more these days I search for something I really want to know only to be bombarded with false sites offering me nothing more than my search query spat back at me and then a whole bunch of sales and endorsements.
So finally, with the help of my friend and fellow sports and fitness enthusiast we decided to get pro active and quit our whining. We are both huge fans of personal fitness, but from quite different sides of the arena, the only thing we share is a love of water sports i.e. surfing and diving.
My friend is a Bodybuilder with over 15 years in the sport, runs his own supplement company and has a wealth of knowledge in the supplement, dieting and muscle development fields, his knowledge comes from years of experimentation on the latest supplements, diets and training techniques, like me he never just settles for what he knows, he is always out looking for the next thing, the perpetual thirst for knowledge.
Me on the other hand have always been more endurance and adventure based in my training pursuits, with a long history of nearly 14 years of surfing, white water kayaking, mountain biking (downhill). Never really looked to bulk up much, just enough to look good and have the strength I need to enjoy the sports I love. Training is not even slightly enjoyable, I am only into doing, for my friend the training is great fun, hard work but good fun.
We were sitting there one day talking about this internet problem after the gym when it hit us, there are so many different people training for so many different reasons, why not make a web site with a broad range of good information that people can access without being bombarded with sales pitches , after all that’s what we want when we search the web, so we did it, our site is called INFORM 4 FREE and the name is pretty self explanatory, information about getting inform and its all free. No endorsements, No sales, just great content and tips on Training, Supplements, yoga, beauty, muscle development, diet and general health.
INFORM 4 FREE was first launched on September 29th 2007, starting at a mere 40 pages, but we are scouring all useful information that is related to the above categories to update it daily, it is more than our work it is our passion.
We plan on adding a mail service to INFORM 4 FREE in October of 2007 where people can write articles or tips or advice on either Training, Supplements, yoga, beauty, muscle development, diet and general health. And if we like what we read we will publish it on our site and share it with the world.
Our goal at INFORM 4 FREE is simple, we wish to create the largest internet database on all aspects of sports, fitness and health so that anyone who wants to get in form can get informed and achieve their personal Training, Supplements, yoga, beauty, muscle development, diet and general health goals sooner and more effectively

I believe that if we all get out there and make good quality sites, full of real content, we can reclaim the internet as a source of reliable information, what are your thoughts?
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:06 PM Re: Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales
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I was wondering the same thing. Trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt that this isn't spam, but it's really difficult.

And if the site is as claimed, why do they mention free so many times?
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:39 PM Re: Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:22 PM Re: Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales
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funny. when i got on the interweb i used to think that links on a site were really genuine recommendations about a product the site owner really liked, not a money deal

boy, was i wrong on this
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:25 PM Re: Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales
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What do you think of the results? I don't even see http://www.webmaster-talk.com in them?
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:27 PM Re: Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales
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I stand corrected.

http://www.articlesbase.com/fitness-...ee-224186.html
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What the web is for!

Hi there, I am into information, so when I was first introduced to the idea of the internet all those years ago, I was thinking, **** what a great idea!

Although more and more these days I search for something I really want to know only to be bombarded with false sites offering me nothing more than my search query spat back at me and then a whole bunch of sales and endorsements.

So finally, with the help of my friend and fellow sports and fitness enthusiast we decided to get pro active and quit our whining. We are both huge fans of [COLOR=#009900 ! important][COLOR=#009900 ! important]personal [COLOR=#009900 ! important]fitness[/color][/color][/color], but from quite different sides of the arena, the only thing we share is a love of water sports i.e. surfing and diving.

My friend is a Bodybuilder with over 15 years in the sport, runs his own [COLOR=#009900 ! important][COLOR=#009900 ! important]supplement[/color][/color] company and has a wealth of knowledge in the supplement, dieting and muscle development fields, his knowledge comes from years of experimentation on the latest supplements, [COLOR=#009900 ! important][COLOR=#009900 ! important]diets[/color][/color] and training techniques, like me he never just settles for what he knows, he is always out looking for the next thing, the perpetual thirst for knowledge.

Me on the other hand have always been more endurance and adventure based in my training pursuits, with a long history of nearly 14 years of surfing, white water kayaking, mountain biking (downhill). Never really looked to bulk up much, just enough to look good and have the strength I need to enjoy the sports I love. Training is not even slightly enjoyable, I am only into doing, for my friend the training is great fun, hard work but good fun.

We were sitting there one day talking about this internet problem after the gym when it hit us, there are so many different people training for so many different reasons, why not make a web site with a broad range of good information that people can access without being bombarded with ales pitches , after all that’s what we want when we search the web, so we did it, our site is called INFORM 4 FREE and the name is pretty elf explanatory, information about getting inform and its all free. No endorsements, No sales, just great content and tips on Training, Supplements, yoga, beauty, muscle development, diet and general health.

INFORM 4 FREE was first launched on September 29th 2007, starting at a mere 40 pages, but we are scouring all useful information that is related to the above categories to update it daily, it is more than our work it is our passion.

We plan on adding a mail service to INFORM 4 FREE in October of 2007 where people can write articles or tips or advice on either Training, Supplements, yoga, beauty, muscle development, diet and general health. And if we like what we read we will publish it on our site and share it with the world.

Our goal at INFORM 4 FREE is simple, we wish to create the largest internet database on all aspects of sports, [COLOR=#009900 ! important][COLOR=#009900 ! important]fitness [COLOR=#009900 ! important]and [/color][COLOR=#009900 ! important]health[/color][/color][/color] so that anyone who wants to get in form can get informed and achieve their personal Training, Supplements, yoga, beauty, muscle development, diet and general health goals sooner and more effectively

Thank you for taking the time to read this article

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Old 10-03-2007, 04:39 PM Re: Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales
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Look at his reputation on one of the first few forums - it's like 4 negative reputation bars!!!
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:53 PM Re: Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales
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LOL!!

You must mean the one with the title "Weight Loss Forum - share the knoledge!".

First reply is from the guy who started the thread (and this one):

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I would like to add that the post above is in no way a spam post!
For it to be spam I would have to be trying to sell something which I am not.
It is more of a public service announcement, to inform people of some new information on the web, my site doesnt offer a forum so is no way trying to leech members from this forum.
Thank you!
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:03 PM Re: Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales
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i hate threads like this. utterly pointless spam!
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:54 PM Re: Isnt the web supposed to be all about information? has it become only about sales
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Firstly,
I made this post here, nd fter that decided to add it to my article base also,
I have made my site because I am sick of sites that advertise information and then only sell their products, I do not do that, infact I dont have a single product or endorsement on my site.

As for the weightloss forum, I have posted there on a variety of topics, and continue to do so as it is a topic I m intereted in. I placed my post there about my site to let people there know bout what I have made in contribution to the genre of health and fitness, but one of the "forum guys" just labelled me as a spammer based on that single post, he has since admitted that he didnt even read anything else I posted in the other topics, he is the reason my rep bar took a hit, since then I have brought it up 300points.
I am truely sick of the web being used for sales only, Its like having millions of door to door sales men jumping at me from my pc screen at random moment when ll I want is to find out something.
I think you are all so pre occupied with this spamming tag that you cant see when someone is just telling you about something new, as apposed to selling of just pointless promotion.
to quote one example of what I call spamming, I made a post on how I warm up for a surf, on a forum and the first replie was simply my post quted plus his link below. That is spam, no contirbution just a stupid link.
I take my time when writting in these forums, I do not just copy and paste!!
Now if I happen to like what I hve written and wish to add it elsewhere like MY ARTICLES then that i my choice. try reaserching by adding a little bit of comprehention before jumping on the spam wagon please, now I am sick of this stupid spammer threads, I posted this looking for like minded people who may have also made sites that re only for information and dont come with a tonne of sales crap....If you have one of these sites please let me know!!!!
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I have made my site because I am sick of sites that advertise information and then only sell their products, I do not do that, infact I dont have a single product or endorsement on my site.
And you've left an endorsement of your site on a webmaster forum. How surfing and lifting weights and the spamtastic all time favorite of "weight loss" is connected to html or server scripting or anything else, is beyond me. But not just me! You're the one and only person who sees a connection, either here or anywhere else you've spammed.

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I am truely sick of the web being used for sales only, Its like having millions of door to door sales men jumping at me from my pc screen at random moment when ll I want is to find out something.
And the kind people here are in search of information pertaining to operating on the web, only to have a salesman jump out of their PC rambling on about a sales pitch to go look at some weight loss web site.

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I think you are all so pre occupied with this spamming tag that you cant see when someone is just telling you about something new, as apposed to selling of just pointless promotion.
You were pointlessly promoting a weight loss site.

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That is spam, no contirbution just a stupid link.
I take my time when writting in these forums, I do not just copy and paste!!
Again

articlesbase.com/fitness-articles/fitness-information-should-be-free-224186.html

Let's take a closer look, shall we?

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Fitness Information Should be Free! Author: Inform 4 free team | Posted: 01-10-2007 | Comments: 1 | Views: 8 |
Either you posted this in January, or on the same day you spammed this forum with your duplicate content. Says here you started this thread at 11:06 pm, and not knowing where the articlesbase site is, methinks there's no way you could have written this one first an then got the server to recognize the same date (dd-mm-yyyy?) across different time zones. But that's a side point, a smoke screen, and a distraction. The fact is this is a web site forum, not a weight loss forum. We don't want people spamming us with copy and paste garbage (useless drivel - your ramblings add no value here or anywhere else to be honest) of any sort. Even things that are on topic, like, you know, about running a web site, we don't want to be posting duplicates of.

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Now if I happen to like what I hve written and wish to add it elsewhere like MY ARTICLES then that i my choice. try reaserching by adding a little bit of comprehention before jumping on the spam wagon please, now I am sick of this stupid spammer threads, I posted this looking for like minded people who may have also made sites that re only for information and dont come with a tonne of sales crap....If you have one of these sites please let me know!!!!
You're sick of being called a spammer because you're trying to get your site off the ground by using spammy methods. You want people to stop calling you a spammer? Stop spamming.
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