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Old 10-12-2007, 12:51 AM What is up with the adds know?
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Why does the site all of the sudden have adds now at the top?
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:58 AM Re: What is up with the adds know?
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I personally don't like these changes. The navigational bar where the adsense is now was a neat and fitting emplacement for the navigation, but now it has been degraded in accessibility, visibility, and presentation.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:29 AM Re: What is up with the adds know?
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i dont see the problem with this, it hardly is stand out and in your face, and lets face it, running a website of this size does come with operating costs, and to gain back those costs, you cant blame the owner for trying to monetize their website.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:39 AM Re: What is up with the adds know?
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Yes as a fellow webmaster I understand. However, I'll always put design, accessibility, and user satisfaction first.

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running a website of this size does come with operating costs, and to gain back those costs

I wouldn't put the costs of webmaster talk too high. You could probably get away with this on a $10 per month shared hosting
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:42 AM Re: What is up with the adds know?
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Yes as a fellow webmaster I understand. However, I'll always put design, accessibility, and user satisfaction first.




I wouldn't put the costs of webmaster talk too high. You could probably get away with this on a $10 per month shared hosting
Consider the traffic we get, the number of threads, etc. I think the expenses side is quite a bit more than $10. Besides, I have my reseller hosting through the same host as WT and the cheapest package is more than that.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:49 AM Re: What is up with the adds know?
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Personally doesn't bother me. I've seen sites with alot more adsense than here.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:05 AM Re: What is up with the adds know?
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I personally don't like these changes. The navigational bar where the adsense is now was a neat and fitting emplacement for the navigation, but now it has been degraded in accessibility, visibility, and presentation.
Seems like a bit of an over-reaction, especially from another webmaster. Everything is still easily visible and accessible.

You'll get used to the changes pretty quick, probably too quick for WT's taste, as ad-blindness seems to set in pretty quickly on forums.

Screw the $10 cost. Who cares if they pay $10 or $10,000? What happened to someone's right to make a profit from their efforts? Are you suggesting that their time should be donated?

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Old 10-15-2007, 06:12 AM Re: What is up with the adds know?
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Consider the traffic we get, the number of threads, etc. I think the expenses side is quite a bit more than $10. Besides, I have my reseller hosting through the same host as WT and the cheapest package is more than that.
I'm not saying what webmaster talk currently uses, but what it could probably run on.

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GoDaddy offer $6.99 a month "economy plan" shared hosting.

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Now we know all the space isn't going to be required hands down.

I doubt it'd get near the 1,000gb bandwidth cap. I mean I've got a site (hasn't been posted on here) that always has subscribers on and offers file downloads, using a heavily modded and resource consuming cms. This site alone, or all my sites for that fact, have never gone to my dedicated servers 2,000 gb cap. The ONLY time I have gone beyond that was when my server was exploited to attack other servers (nice bill I had after that)

When the Steve Irwin Memorial first opened it was getting about 10 hits and new condolence messages everytime I refreshed and still with all those connections I did not come close to my bandwidth limit.

I also run some sites with vBulletin, now the traffic does not compare to webmaster talk's that is for sure, but there are always people on and the bandwidth is not much at all. The only bandwidth from that site is the video downloads. I am aware that forum systems can be taxing especially when lots of people are making connections on it, but still, vbulletin is a software optimised for this.

In conclusion I still stick to my $10 theory.

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Seems like a bit of an over-reaction, especially from another webmaster. Everything is still easily visible and accessible.

You'll get used to the changes pretty quick, probably too quick for WT's taste, as ad-blindness seems to set in pretty quickly on forums.

Screw the $10 cost. Who cares if they pay $10 or $10,000? What happened to someone's right to make a profit from their efforts? Are you suggesting that their time should be donated?
To be honest it's not that much big of a deal, however I do point out that the previous bar was nicely built in. I do also applaud that the webmaster tries to cover some of the hosting costs and also has the ad revenue sharing on.

Just pointers not extreme criticisms really.

Of course every webmaster has the right to profit from their efforts, I do the same.

The change was just rather unexpected and I wanted to share my thoughts in the first post, and they are the thoughts I had at that moment. However now I am beginning to adjust to it so it is not as bad, but still I think the previous header was better eye candy.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:25 AM Re: What is up with the adds know?
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Okay. I understand, none of us like changes and you certainly have a right to your oppinion.

I'm still lost on why you are concerned with what they pay for hosting. It's like you are trying to say it's only okay for them to make a profit if they have exorbitant hosting costs. What they pay for hosting is irrelevant. It doesn't really matter if they are trying to monitize to cover their cost or for profit. A site like this certainly takes a lot of time to run and I don't have a problem with anyone being compensated for their time. jmo.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:50 AM Re: What is up with the adds know?
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I'm still lost on why you are concerned with what they pay for hosting. It's like you are trying to say it's only okay for them to make a profit if they have exorbitant hosting costs. What they pay for hosting is irrelevant. It doesn't really matter if they are trying to monitize to cover their cost or for profit. A site like this certainly takes a lot of time to run and I don't have a problem with anyone being compensated for their time. jmo.
That is definitely not what I was getting at. I'm not sure if you read the post correct as when I brought that up it was a response to another post. When I said that I was responding to swiftmed when he brought up operating costs. I am in no way criticising the webmasters right to profit from the website.
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