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Old 11-29-2007, 10:36 PM Linux
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So I have been wanting to try Linux for a while now. I was told it would make me a better programmer and it was a great OS. Right now basically all I can do in tearms of coding is CSS and Xhtml. (What would the next language you suggest I learn be? I would do PHP but I want something that is good for things besides just websites.) (Would javascript be good?) Anyway I am looking for a good virus free live bootable from cd download of like linux. Does anyone know of any? Also how do you suggest I get better at this sort of stuff? I have like no good classes available and not much time.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:42 PM Re: Linux
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:09 PM Re: Linux
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As far as programming goes, I'm not sure how linux would make you a better coder, but if you want to learn a language PHP may actually be a pretty good choice. PHP syntax is very java/C++ like but you don't have to deal with a lot of the technical aspects involved in those langauge. PHP isn't type checked, won't force you to use the object model, and is very well documented. Javascript syntax is also PHP/C++/Java like as far as control flow goes.

Distrowatch.com is a pretty good place to pick up a copy of linux.

I'm sure you'll find lots of help here if you need it, check out the php forum if you decide to go in that direction. Personally, I'm a Java programmer (Primarily) so I'd be happy to answer any questions you have if you ever decide to pick that up (I can also help with PHP/C++ to a lesser degree).
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:18 AM Re: Linux
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I've used Linux for 8 years and it is a great OS. Don't know if it will make you a better coder though. I have a box that I use Linux as my server. Another good point is there are a lot of free programs to code with.

I used Linux exclusively as my desktop for 4 years and never cried for Windows or programs that run on it. I have to use Windows on this laptop because it is company provided.

Here is a list of live cds
http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php

Ubuntu is popular now. Has a live-cd with an Install button on the desktop to install to the hard drive if you choose.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:43 PM Re: Linux
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I think the reason people say Linux makes you a better programmer is that (except for the bootstrapper) it's built in C, the Operating System itself comes with a compiler for you to make changes and additions. If you simply use windows that look a little different, that won't affect your programming skills whatsoever.

If you'd like to learn a programming language that's useful beyond web sites and naturally hesitate to invest time learning PHP, you should look into C#, C++, and just plain C. Visual Basic (VB) will work as well, but it's much less useful. Javascript is a browser action scripting language, so it's even less useful than PHP. But javascript syntax is modeled on C++ but greatly simplified and dumbed down. PHP is also based somewhat on C++ but really only using concepts that apply to the web, and again is sort of a dumbed down version of C++. This is why I say it's more useful to learn C than VB, because as a programmer that gives you a better foundation. It's like learning German instead of Chinese before you go on a trip to Europe. The German will be perfect when you're in Germany, but it'll also help you understand some degree of other Euro languages. C is the same except your going to town on your computer instead of going to Europe.

VB is the red headed step child.
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