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**choskins102** · 03:37 AM

So I have a design contest going on this site at the moment, but, as of now, no one has expressed interest (except for one who hasn't returned my messages yet.) Anyways, I am resigned to the fact that I may just have to pay a company to do this. So I sent out a few messages, asking for quotes, the cheapest one was $1,800. How gay is that. I mean, all I need is a layout. No programming or anything like that.

Anyways, does anyone know of a company or individual who specializes in layouts (preferably game layouts, but thats not necessary.) I tried doing a google search and got 180,000 useless sites (Remember back in the good ol' days when you search for something on google and whatever you were looking for was always on the first page?)

If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.

**fitnfree** · 03-14-2008, 07:55 AM

Are you talking about a layout for a website? If so, check out templates, they're a lot less expensive, some are even free.

**andrei155** · 03-14-2008, 09:00 AM

I can do this for you, no problem! I'm really not trying to advertise myself, and take over the post.. sorry : (. But it looks like you are really in search of someone.

Contact me if your interested.

**choskins102** · 03-14-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fitnfree

Are you talking about a layout for a website? If so, check out templates, they're a lot less expensive, some are even free.

I thought of that too. So I did a search for game templates, and found that almost EVERY page had the exact same templates.

**Learning Newbie** · 03-14-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by choskins102

Anyways, I am resigned to the fact that I may just have to pay a company to do this. So I sent out a few messages, asking for quotes, the cheapest one was $1,800. How gay is that. I mean, all I need is a layout. No programming or anything like that.

The idea that skilled professionals (graphic designers) want to be paid for their labor? Not gay at all, in fact I'm not sure what that has to do with homo sexuality?

Why is it reasonable to pay a programmer $1,800 but not a designer? If you're not able to do the work yourself, but need it done in order to profit, then it would seem reasonable to think this is a valuable part of your revenue generation and deserves to be compensated as such.

Sorry that isn't the answer you were looking for, but you asked the question, and that's the answer that jumps to mind.

**choskins102** · 04:43 PM

I have no problem paying someone for what they are worth. But, lets be honest, a skilled graphic artist can create the exact template that I am looking for in just a couple of hours. I myself have created some pretty snazzy layout in that time and I have serious problems with Photoshop because I rarely use it and don't know all the tricks to getting things the way that I want. If, for example, the layout I was looking for was going to take 10 - 15 hours to create, then yes, I would pay the 1800. But we are talking about 2 - 4 hours tops. I have seen people on this site and others create a custom layout or template in no time. No to mention that fact that the price ranges are completely ridiculous. The 1800 is the cheapest, the most expensive was over 3000.

**Learning Newbie** · 03-14-2008, 04:49 PM

Sure, 2 to 4 hours to apply the knowledge that person has spent years building up. A lot of dentists will charge $1,800 for a lot less than 4 hours of work. It's kind of like saying I really need gasoline, but I refuse to pay more than $0.30 a gallon for it.

I wish you luck, but it sounds like you've done your homework and come to the conclusion that a quality layout template is (1) something you need and (2) not cheap. To move forward with your project, it sounds as if you may need to realign your expectations so that they better match the state of the market.

**joder** · 03-14-2008, 08:12 PM

If you don't want to pay those prices, look elsewhere or do it yourself.

**choskins102** · 03-14-2008, 08:51 PM

I am trying to look elsewhere, that was the whole point of this post.

**NullPointer** · 03-14-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by choskins102

I am trying to look elsewhere, that was the whole point of this post.

If that's the case then maybe you should try the freelance forum, I'm sure you'll find someone willing to do it there.

**joder** · 03-14-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by choskins102

I am trying to look elsewhere, that was the whole point of this post.

Look somewhere where there are a lot of freelancers from overseas. Some of them will work dirt cheap.

**andrei155** · 03-14-2008, 11:10 PM

He did post in the freelancers forum. As a matter of fact, he started this thread by mentioning that no one was interested in the post he made on the freelancers forum.