General Discussions

**Hoang** · 07-06-2006, 01:15 PM

http://auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y06/m07/i06/s02

How do you guys feel about this? Is it reasonable or is eBay being unreasonable?

**Lpspider** · 07-06-2006, 01:44 PM

Wow. That's bogus.

**Dr. Domaining** · 07-06-2006, 01:45 PM

I think it is only in their best interest. Google is attemping to takeover the entire Internet world. One would have to think they will be launching a Google auction sometime in the future. They are just taking preemptive measures against what could possibly be a major threat to their business.

**ltn1dr** · 07-06-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Domaining

I think it is only in their best interest. Google is attemping to takeover the entire Internet world. One would have to think they will be launching a Google auction sometime in the future. They are just taking preemptive measures against what could possibly be a major threat to their business.

Yes, but I think that banning sellers is a bit over the limit isn't it?

Losing your eBay account is horrid, especially if your one of those Power Sellers who only sell because they have great feedback.

**Lpspider** · 07-06-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Domaining

I think it is only in their best interest. Google is attemping to takeover the entire Internet world. One would have to think they will be launching a Google auction sometime in the future. They are just taking preemptive measures against what could possibly be a major threat to their business.

True. But while google is trying to establish a monopoly, I don't think it's fair for ebay to establish a monopoly on payment methods. Who knows, it might turn away some of their own potential business.

**Chris Gwynne** · 07-06-2006, 01:59 PM

I'd have to side with eBay's reasoning on this. I think it's in their best interest. There isn't a need to add Google's Payment system to what's current available, there's already more than enough ways to pay, why add more?

Also PayPal's profit comes from eBay, allowing a third party like Google would hit them in a big way.

**ltn1dr** · 07-06-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Gwynne

I'd have to side with eBay's reasoning on this. I think it's in their best interest. There isn't a need to add Google's Payment system to what's current available, there's already more than enough ways to pay, why add more?

Also PayPal's profit comes from eBay, allowing a third party like Google would hit them in a big way.

Thats not true, there a bunch of other 3rd party systems for eBay checkouts. All of the big sellers don't even use Paypal anymore.

Paypal has a lot more things in it than just money from eBay, they have credit cards, shops, and more.

**reteep** · 07-07-2006, 02:24 AM

That's the beginning of a dirty war, no good decision eBay.

**Complete Hostin** · 07-07-2006, 02:32 AM

I think they have done this so they can keep alot of profit coming through paypal if they where to allow google checkout in they would lose alot of business through there other network (paypal). But i think it might go againts them with people going to other auction sites so they can use googles payment method.

**Muhammad Haris** · 07-07-2006, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Gwynne

I'd have to side with eBay's reasoning on this. I think it's in their best interest. There isn't a need to add Google's Payment system to what's current available, there's already more than enough ways to pay, why add more?

Also PayPal's profit comes from eBay, allowing a third party like Google would hit them in a big way.

They get profit from listings and not from processors.

**Atomm** · 07-07-2006, 05:22 PM

Actually, that is not correct.

ebay owns PayPal and makes money from the fee's associated with it's use.

**clenard** · 07-07-2006, 05:38 PM

I read this earlier... I was surprised actually. It's kind of odd to see them outright banish the Product because of competition. I would think this would cause ALOT of controversy over the next few weeks.

**pcdoc** · 07-11-2006, 09:26 AM

good for ebay, good for ebay shareholders (me)

**LeeD** · 07-11-2006, 09:47 AM

I like the move and think it is very smart. Certainly puts a dent in google's market space.

**shadfewl** · 07-23-2006, 07:08 PM

I think this type of banning is definitely in violation of one law or another. I read this online:

http://www.donsausa.com/2006/07/ebay...-filed-in.html

It talks about which law they (eBay) are violating and how to file a complaint about it online.

**Flyboy** · 07-23-2006, 08:58 PM

Honestly, that's BS.

Say I have a product I sell online through my website. I don't like payment processor #2 because I've had bad experiences with them so I decide to only accept payment processor #1 (which I may or may not own, no difference) to receive payments. If someone came and told me I'm in violation of whatever law because I don't feel like using payment processor #2, I would laugh in their faces for an hour.

eBay decides what payment methods to accept or not to accept. If people want to use Google Checkout, then go to websites where Google Checkout is accepted, but eBay has absolutely no reason to use GC. If people don't like it, then don't go buy stuff on eBay and that's it.

They should be able to accept whatever method THEY want to accept, it's THEIR website and it's not up to anyone BUT THEM to decide what to and what not to use.

Just my 2 cents. And if anyone is going to rant about some BS law not allowing vendors to choose what payment processors they want to use, I won't waste anytime discussing that.

**shadfewl** · 08-12-2006, 07:32 PM

Flyboy, on that example you are correct. But eBay is not that example. It isn't a simple web site. And they do not sell products, they are a venue.

They own the primary payment processor (PayPal). The dynamics in terms of legality are instantly changed. You are blocking the competition because it competes with your processor service.

And you also stumbled on a second point, "bad experiences" -- Google Checkout never had a chance to prove itself because eBay blocked it out.

**Sygon** · 08-12-2006, 07:51 PM

They could say they banned it because its only for the US :S :shuriken:

**MafiaMaster** · 08-12-2006, 09:39 PM

The same goes for any other business out there. Take, for example, a restaurant. A lot of places don't like to take American Express (Credit Card) because they charge more per sale and a flat fee of $5.00 for each sale as well. So, merchants don't like to use it because it cuts into their profits. The same goes for ebay. Why allow something to cut into their profits? I think that Ebay did the right thing by making this move. Google is so **** powerful, it's about time something slaps it around.

**Vi5** · 08-13-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MafiaMaster

The same goes for any other business out there. Take, for example, a restaurant. A lot of places don't like to take American Express (Credit Card) because they charge more per sale and a flat fee of $5.00 for each sale as well. So, merchants don't like to use it because it cuts into their profits. The same goes for ebay. Why allow something to cut into their profits? I think that Ebay did the right thing by making this move. Google is so **** powerful, it's about time something slaps it around.

AMEX charge that because they reward people for using their card.

But Google Checkout wouldn't cost eBay money, just stop them earning some (it if different).

I am siding with eBay but it's not the same.