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**webspace** · 02-15-2007, 06:52 PM

OK, ethics question. What is truely fair? This is a really open ended quesiton. Just give an example of something you think is fair and why. Anything funny or philoshpical or just out of the ordanary is good.

I just want to see what people will say.

Thanks,

Buck

**jito** · 02-16-2007, 04:40 AM

Like all other things this is also relative. So you you can't say "This is fair and this is not..."

**InfTekHosting** · 02-16-2007, 12:30 PM

My idea of fair is when two parties reach an agreement that is neither satisfactory nor one-sided, but is good enough to settle any arguments.

**houdini987** · 02-16-2007, 12:34 PM

Fair is synonymous with just. Fair is the concept that the outcome of a conflict is as equally good or bad as possible between two or more ideas or people.

**ADAM Web Design** · 02-16-2007, 04:46 PM

Fair is a place with midway rides, and horses, and a 4-H club, and maybe some clowns, and those really weird jam competitions that old women with tight windproof perms compete to win $5 in and oh yeah, it's usually got a tractor pull too.

I ummm...I probably misinterpreted the question.

**RickPlmr** · 02-16-2007, 06:37 PM

How about what's not fair? http://www.dad-eblog.com/its_not_fair

**webspace** · 02-21-2007, 08:25 PM

Just trying to get a get an idea of what people think is fair.

**angele803** · 02-21-2007, 10:55 PM

It would be fair if everyone's job was doing something they loved. (I might end up sleeping alot). And everyone gets paid the same amount of money and has equal and fantastic health care coverage.

**aldor** · 02-22-2007, 12:17 PM

No angele803 it would not be fair if everyone was paid the same amount and had equal health cover. If this were the case there would be no incentive for anyone to do anything. The more a person puts in to their job the more they should be rewarded. I realise this isn't the case in the real world, but are we discussing the real world or trying to pin down an idea of fairness.

To me fairness is where both sides to an agreement feel that they have the best deal that they could come by in the particular set of circumstances.
I'm sure that other posters will have different views so let's hear from you.

**memberpro** · 02-22-2007, 12:30 PM

Fairness is in the eye of the beholder....

Give the same circumstances to two people and I gaurantee that one will think it is fair and the other won't.

For instance, some people on this forum are offering $10 for someone to create a web template for them...

Let me ask you this... is this offer fair?

It's all about how the person justifys the offer. If you can pop out a web template in 5 minutes... you make take the deal ($120/hr). What if it takes 2 days for you to create the same template? Is it a fair deal now?

**webspace** · 09:07 PM

So are you saying is it is fair if it works out for you? I'm not quite there with you on that. You are part right. What about the other guy?

Yeah, I think fair is pretty relative. Fair is getting what you deserve. Sleeping all day and getting paid isn't fair. But is it? You might have made a website that gets AdSense clicks all night long while you sleep. But I think residual income is fair. Someone with residual income from a trust fund didn't work for that so maybe that isn't truely fair.

**jyoz22** · 02-23-2007, 10:15 PM

Kinda off-topic, but I remember one thing a teacher of mine said, he said...

"Fair, is a four letter F-word, we don't use four letter F-words in this class."

**angele803** · 02-23-2007, 11:14 PM

My comment was sort of an attempt to be funny. I guess Im not all that funny. But I truly do feel that it would be fair for people to be happy in their jobs, and it would be fair for people to earn enough money to stay out of poverty, and it would be fair for people to have at least some sort of health insurance so we could all get the medical care we need.

**Mohab** · 03:32 AM

A bit philosphical:

Yes fair is in a person's eye only.

I doubt "fair" exists because in this world fair=perfect and perfect does not exist in this world.

Fair is one of those non existant terms that we as humans can philosophize about. Other such terms are infinite and perfect.

You have to be careful when you think about these philosophical issues because if you go in too deep, you might get lost or end up with a distorted idea that you can't get out of your head.

**Rapunzeleaves** · 03-01-2007, 08:10 AM

fair is basically Equality. In every sense of the word.
Money - There shouldn't be poor and rich
Health - There shouldn't be health and illness
Life - everybody should have the opportunity to be as happy as everyone else.
Appearence - there shouldn't be beauty and ugly
etc etc you get the point

**webspace** · 03-01-2007, 06:11 PM

That is pretty extreme.

**Mohab** · 03-02-2007, 03:31 AM

Excuse me for the spelling mistakes in my last post.

So Rapunzeleaves wants everyone to be the same for things to be fair. So people will be exact clones of each other, doing the same thing with exactly the same amount of money.
I didnt want to say this but here goes: Life is not "fair" so if you want things to really be fair, then non of us should have been born and there should be no "world".

I think I'll stop there because my argument will lead me into a religious discussion, which once started will never end.

**Rapunzeleaves** · 03-02-2007, 05:20 AM

I didn't mean like clones i meant that people shouldn't have the idea that everything is judged by these things, that money, appearance, opportunity and health shouldn't define who you are! in anyones eyes!

**RanaD** · 03-02-2007, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Fair is the concept that the outcome of a conflict is as equally good or bad as possible between two or more ideas or people.

I disagree. We expect judges to be fair. One party will be justified, the other party sentenced. They must make their decision from a basis of accepted norms and morals, which is what law is based on.

The man (or woman) who can make decisions from a base of morals, stand by those decisions and is able to earn respect through their unbiassed application of those morals, which should be known to all who interact with them, can be called fair.

There are universal injustices, as well as localised injustices. Application of the former in a set of morals would have said person recognised as fair globally. It is the latter that divides opinion.

**webspace** · 09:46 PM

If I park in a hadicap spot, I'm allowing the opportunity for the police to wirte me a ticket. If I park in highly trafficed areas of parking lot my vehichle is slightly more likely to be damage in a hit and run. So fair is relative to the what you allow to have happen. So certain consequences of actions are fair.