General Discussions

**Learning Newbie** · 01:54 PM

First there was "web 2.0" (

) and then people started chattering about "web 3.0" aka "the semantic web." Check out Wired if you don't believe me - that's a magazine dedicated to preparing us for Buzzword Bingo. If you think about it, everything we associate with 2 has been around forever, things like blog comments are an extension of forums. But what's really funny is that I've never heard anybody refer to "web 1.0" and I'm not even sure what that would mean. Technically, it would probably have to be before HTML became the world standard. Remember ANSI formatting, anyone?

But on the other hand, a web server used to be a 386, and people would get PO'ed if you spidered their site more than once every other month. Even that was annoying - I had a friend who worked in a university in 1992 with some Word Perfect files up for his students, complaining about rouge directory listings wasting his bandwidth. Now, we stream video and "internet radio." Half the traffic going over the internet is p2p file sharing. Entire DVDs are downloaded, millions per day. Getting software on a disc, whether it's a 3.5" floppy or a CD or data DVD, is going extinct. People are talking about Blue Ray, but what people really want today is better YouTube videos.

What do you think?

**EGS** · 06-24-2007, 11:47 PM

Eh, I think it's all trends. Webmasters get swept off their feet once they hear about techniques successful webmasters have made, and thus trends start to from.

**ADAM Web Design** · 06-25-2007, 12:33 AM

The only thing I'm pissed off about with this post is that I was going to write about the same thing on Tuesday in my blog. You jumped my shark, Johnny.

No harm, though. I've got a better idea anyway.

**seolman** · 06-25-2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

First there was "web 2.0" (

) and then people started chattering about "web 3.0" aka "the semantic web." Check out Wired if you don't believe me - that's a magazine dedicated to preparing us for Buzzword Bingo. If you think about it, everything we associate with 2 has been around forever, things like blog comments are an extension of forums. But what's really funny is that I've never heard anybody refer to "web 1.0" and I'm not even sure what that would mean. Technically, it would probably have to be before HTML became the world standard. Remember ANSI formatting, anyone?

But on the other hand, a web server used to be a 386, and people would get PO'ed if you spidered their site more than once every other month. Even that was annoying - I had a friend who worked in a university in 1992 with some Word Perfect files up for his students, complaining about rouge directory listings wasting his bandwidth. Now, we we stream video and "internet radio." Half the traffic going over the internet is p2p file sharing. Entire DVDs are downloaded, millions per day. Getting software on a disc, whether it's a 3.5" floppy or a CD or data DVD, is going extinct. People are talking about Blue Ray, but what people really want today is better YouTube videos.

What do you think?

I'm wondering if they'll ever start charging for GB transfer... it's only a matter of time before they treat transfer like gasoline. The more you burn the more you pay... I hope not.

BTW John.. what is a "we we stream video"?

**Learning Newbie** · 06-25-2007, 01:54 PM

Good catch, DaveBob! I'll go back and fix that.

Does anyone know what "web 1.0" was?

I think there have been all kinds of major advances in the web, but it's not like there stopped being one version and an upgrade came out. There are still plenty of sites coded in static html, although I don't think how a site is coded has much or anything to do with this. Even though most people associate AJAX with "web 2.0" even though I think it started with gmail?

**gtterry** · 07-19-2007, 09:05 PM

Don't forget web -1, or USPS as some like to call it.

**ADAM Web Design** · 07-20-2007, 01:13 AM

I just thought of something. Tim O'Reilly originally defined Web 2.0 informally here:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/orei...is-web-20.html

**ForrestCroce** · 07-20-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gtterry

Don't forget web -1, or USPS as some like to call it.

So I guess web -2 would be the Pony Express, and web -3 would be smoke signals? Or maybe the telegraph fits in there somewhere ... I've been told TCP/IP is based in large part on the telegraph standard.

From Adam's link:

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domain name speculation --> search engine optimization

Interesting. I really like to believe that the SEO I do isn't scummy, like squatting on PotteryBarn.org and turning it into a porn site after Pottery Barn refused to buy it. But I think "search engine optimization" means too many things to too many people. Spamming blog comments, forums, and referral logs stem from SEO because links are one factor out of many, and the easiest one for a lazy person to latch onto. But I think there's a big camp in SEO who thinks the only links that matter are the ones you earn on merit, instead of create yourself, and that the way to earn links is to ignore them and focus on building a good site that people will find useful or enjoyable enough to want to recommend to their readers or friends.