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Old 07-06-2007, 03:50 PM Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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I just got offered a job I never even applied for. Sounds like a great deal, and I guess my reputation has grown beyond Nigeria! I really need to write these down, but does anyone know who I should forward this on to?

NO LEGITIMATE JOB WILL EVER REQUIRE YOU TO LET THE COMPANY USE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT. NEVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

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While we may have high expectations of our associates, we also give them high rewards. Imagine being part of a stable organization with a sterling reputation - a place where the Sydney Car Centre is an integral part of all that we do. With our car centre personality, you'll not just succeed - you'll thrive. And, with our strong commitment to promoting from within, you'll definitely enjoy your rise to the top.

Today the Sydney Car Centre is looking for an industrious regional assistant to fasten the process of the delivery of customer payments to the suppliers. The position offered is a part-time job, and will only require from you to be available for 1-2 hours a day.

As a regional assistant, you will be supposed to operate with the payments from those customers, based in your country. You will be expected to accept 2-3 transactions to your bank account every week, make certain calculations about every transaction (you will be precisely instructed about it), & transfer the funds to the suppliers by means of western Union/Money Gram less your fee & the charges of the Western Union/Money Gram. You will be continuously communicating with the manager from the head office, who will instruct you & give advice regarding every new payment.

The ideal candidate will be industrious, goal-oriented person, with the availability of a personal/business bank account suitable to be used for the company needs. Knowledge of English, computer literacy and sociability are appreciated.

The company guarantees to pay NET 10% fee out of the amount of every payment you dealt with and to provide you with the regular income & flexible schedule. All the related expenses you might have (like the Western Union/Money Gram chargers, related expenses on traveling) are covered by the company.

The more detailed information is available on our web-site < you bet this is removed >, where you can fill in the on-line application form for this position.

We would be glad to welcome you in our team!
We are looking forward to hearing from you as soon as possible!
Yours sincerely, Drew Jones
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:07 PM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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I get several of these every day. It is really irritating. I have no idea where you can report these emails to, but I would be happy to report all the ones I get. I could see how these emails could really confuse and rip off people.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:18 PM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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If you can extract the host headers, you can track the IP to its bandwidth provider and email the provider (including host headers). That might help.

That's not even the worst one I've seen this week. People are fakin' da funk with the US Department of Justice that way.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:42 PM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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It's not just that I'm annoyed at getting junk mail - I'm used to that. Still ****** me off, but what I'm really worried about is some idiot hard up for work and money thinking their ship just came in, and getting swindled.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:56 PM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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Have you ever noticed that 90% of these type of spam always deal with the transfer of money? It's almost like the world thinks that Americans are so greedy that our drive for money will override our common sense.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:18 PM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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That's exactly what the world thinks about us! I read an article about a psychologist from Boston who got swindled by the Nigerians. They mailed him a forged check for something like $250,000 USD, and the guy had a bit of sense, looked into things, and found out the check was bad. The next few of them, he just deposited, and went and sent off the money, though. I'll have to dig up the URL, I think it was an article in The New Yorker.

A lot of the officials with the Nigerian scam in particular blame the victims. "If people weren't willing to chase after a fortune they didn't earn that's of questionable origin, scammers wouldn't make any money."

True as that may be, there are a lot of elderly people on a fixed income, very worried about money, and in a position where they feel like they need to take a risk. There are any number of reasons someone might do something like this, and at least with some of the scams, just wanting to help a fellow out is one of the main ones.

I actually think Open Source in general proves we're not as greedy as Hollywood likes to make it seem.

But there's never ever EVER a reason any job in America will try to launder money through your account. Even if the company is based in Bulgaria or anywhere else, all companies have a bank account, and banking is international. The ONLY reason they'd ever ask for your bank account is to cheat you.

I'll post a reply when I find the right people to forward this on to. Like Adam suggested, their web host will be one of them. But I think the FBI, or FCC, or I'm not really even sure, but when I know, I'll pass the info along. Maybe that will save someone's grandma her pension.
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Old 07-06-2007, 07:49 PM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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For those in Ontario, Canada, www.phonebusters.com also deals with these sorts of emails. (Sorry...just thought of it.)
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:40 PM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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Use gMail and it'll automatically be detected and put in your spam folder.

I think you should just test it out so you can give us a report of what happens when you actually do one of these things.
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:04 PM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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I think you have a point because you are correct no company legit company would have you do this they would have there own accounts and funds etc., It is kind of like handing a thief your credit card giving him the pin and saying "steal my money" or giving a robber your house key.
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:11 PM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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There's a South Park episode where Token, who's family is the richest in town, wants to fit in with the lower to middle class kids. He gets his family to take him to J-Mart. They drive up to the front door in their Hummer, get out, and the first guy that walks by, the father hands him the keys. The guy looks at him and says "Huh?" and the father says "Oh, sorry, a tip - here's $20." Then he tells his wife the valet parking guys don't look very professional.

Random tangent, but John's comment "It is kind of like handing a thief your credit card giving him the pin and saying "steal my money" or giving a robber your house key" reminded me of the guy paying someone to steal his SUV.

I have no idea who to forward the email, along with the headers, off to, but maybe you should copy the AARP.
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:11 AM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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http://www.419eater.com
http://www.scam.com/

http://www.fraud.org/
http://www.fightidentitytheft.com/ho...ort-scams.html
http://www.ic3.gov/ (for the US)

http://www.millersmiles.co.uk/
http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/

http://scamdex.com/ & http://scamdex.com/Reporting.html


But just to hack you off even more

I pick up email from 12 mailboxes on different hostnames and my spam count for the last 3 months is 19 messages flagged as spam (that's 19 in total from 7000+ messages) (K9 stats)

So I just never see the garbage any more.
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:10 AM Re: Spam warning, mostly FYI, but a question too
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i have mcafee spam killer but dont have it installed becasue it always mucked everything up with my outlook settinsg i think this which so i gave up. i get about 5 a day i would say over 6 emails 5 of which are @dansgalaxy.co.uk

the main ones which get spammed are the dan@ and webmaster@ the ones i use to sign up for things, just shows one dodgy site and ur screwed haha.

i have mcafee site adviser which is SO helpful for somethings like this
(btw im the person who told the mcafee site advise that WMT was great and ok it hadnt been told before XD)

i may sound really stupid, but is there any kind of plugin for outlook, where u can littlerally jsut click a button in the header and it automatically reports it as spam and sends all the info?

if this exsites tell me because that would be such a great tool, and i think MS should definatly do this or soemthing.
or someone should make it.

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