I'm seeing a TON of these....... Does this make sense? I'm guessing they target CHEAPER keywords to drive traffic to sites that have Adsense PPC for RELATED (but more expensive) keywords.

They don't work. There is no way you can get traffic from adwords, make money from adsense and come out with a profit.

I wouldn't say that its impossible but chances are pretty low and perhaps not worth the risk.

I wouldnt think there would be any profit from it.
But if soo many people are doing it then there might be

This method is gold if you ask me. Think about find other keywords relatingt o your website that have virtually low competition and you get cheap traffic from those. Meanwhile your google adsense is gaining from clicks. Using these method is like using any method to advertise your website. Like paying for a directory submisiion or something f the sorts. The only difference is it's all from google and happens to be more easier to use side by side withthe new google analytics. This is a good idea if you asked me and many people are suing both of these at th esame with good results. It's just a good combination of targetted traffic which equals good earnings.

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Think about it.

User types in "free computers". You build a site around "expensive holidays". It's not what they're looking for, so they click off. You've just lost a few cents.

If you get an ad CTR of about 5% (which is rather optimistic), your keywords will have to be 20 times more valuable than those you bidded on x 2 (assuming G take half) to take into account Google's cut.

So, you'll have to bid on relevant keywords that are 40 times as cheap - and write a relevant site to get a good CTR.

Take into account the amount of competition you'll have (whether it works or not) and it's pretty much impossible.

Yeah that's the thing, you will be getting untargeted traffic, And anyone who knows anything about visitors knows that untargeted traffic is practically worthless.

Why would someone looking for one thing click an advert about something completely different on a site that has nothing to do with what they are looking for?
They wouldn't. They will just leave the site.

Nice idea, But completely unworkable.

Some people may click the adverts just to get off the website, I've seen it work before.

Yeah some people may, But i highly doubt enough will.

Well what if you were using 5c adwords to target traffic to a site targeting $50 adsense placements. I think you could manage some sort of profit margin.

What I meant was say you have an adsense related website. And you put say 10c on the keyword "adsense layout" which has virtually no competition. You get relevant traffic and in turn can turn into profit for you. As your ads are focused on the main adsense topic. Which has a high competitor maily google itself.

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Makes sense to me numbah. I might actually give this a try once I build up some funds.

You defintiely won't be able to succeed if you target the same keywords on both AdWords and AdSense, but I've been thinking lately along the same lines Numbah1 is that if you target and get ads for the higher payouts on the AdSense side you could probably profit by bidding on keywords in AdWords that are at the back end of the search tail and have very low bids.

The issues would be how many of those long tail ads you would need to drive enough traffic to your site to make it all worthwhile. Let's say you find a 10 cent keyword in AdWords. On the Adsense site you have a 5% CTR which is higher than average, but certainly attainable. So for every $2 you spend on AdWords you get one click. You obviosuly need a $2 payout for your lowest paying ad to break even. Maybe for a low payout of $3 you decide it would be worth it. The question then becomes for those $3 clicks can you find the 10 cent keywords to bid on.

Chances are as the bids go up for the higher paying keywords they will also be going up for the long tail keywords, but there may be some combinations out there where the whole thing can work. It might take a lot of testing to find those keywords and you would need the right site.

I have heard people claim combining the two programs has worked for them, but I'm not sure if it's because they worked hard at it or just got lucky with the right subject matter. I'm sure with a little searching we could find people who have been both successful and unsuccessful with the approach, though I would suspect their would be more cases of it not working.

I personally think this depends on the amount of research you put into it. A serious publisher may be able to find a way to gain traffic for free it appears. I have been talking about this technique for a while now onm my adsense blog and the idea was introduced to me by my friend who is using this same method. Though it is hard it can pay off in the long run. Again it would take a seriou individual with an amount of resources. Or maybe a group of people can do this for you, one part can track the adwords keywords that seem to not be drawing attention on a specific topic. While another can focus on to maximize the gained traffic. I feel an idea coming along anyone intrested in getting together to try this?

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ive managed to do this

Care to elaborate?

create adsense pages use cheap 0.05c adwords keywords to drive traffic to a page that pays anything between 0.50c to $1.60 a click . I dont make loads of money , but clear profit about $500 a month

That makes sense and I think it's the general way to combine the two programs for success. The key being to go after the low bid phrases in AdWords for your topic.

Do you measure the ROI of the phrases you bid on? I imagine some don't perform well and could be dropped while there might be other keyphrases that you're not currently bidding on that will have a greater ROI.

i used to but didnt have time to keep it going , i literally look at how much ive spent each day driving traffic to the page and how much ive made from adsense if i make a porifit i stick with page if not i delete page. ( run this test for a week and delete pages where necessary) Very hard now though due to google clamping down on this.

I would like to see an example of when this has worked.
If you are bidding on low cost clicks to drive traffic to pages that contain high paying adverts you are going to have untargeted traffic, So why not just buy 1000 visitors for $1 or however much it costs?

The theory of it seems to work a lot better than it does in practice.