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Old 07-18-2007, 07:31 AM double html form submissions
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Hello people:

When the html page showed is the result of a html form submission with method "GET" the html form submission is send it twice or sometimes three times.

How can I protect my application for double html form submissions?

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Old 07-18-2007, 07:34 AM Re: double html form submissions
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:05 PM Re: double html form submissions
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wrong thread, plus I don't know what you mean
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:24 AM Re: double html form submissions
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Probably the link is clicked twice / thrice
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:37 AM Re: double html form submissions
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Probably the link is clicked twice / thrice
Not, the problem is that if I send an html form with method "get" for example:

Code:
http://myaplication.com/insert?text=value
The same petition is done for the AdSense's script and the insert is done multiple times, and the text "value" is inserted multiple times because the AdSense petitions.

But, how can I protect my application for this kind of AdSense petitions?
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:29 AM Re: double html form submissions
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whats an adsense petition?
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:40 AM Re: double html form submissions
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whats an adsense petition?
What I mean with a Adsense's petition is the petition that the AdSense's bot send to my application for know the content of the page where the script is inside.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:12 PM Re: double html form submissions
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Ok now I think everybody is confused.

1/ What is your application, is it?
A set of scripts running on a web server.
a program running or your home/work/office computer.
You application to be accepted for displaying Adsense.

2/ What is an Adsense petition?
And PLEASE don't tell us it is a petition by the Adsense bot.
Explain what you mean.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:30 PM Re: double html form submissions
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This is my application:

Code:
 <form action="insert.php" method="get"> 
  <input type="text" name="text_to_insert"/> 
  <input type="submit"/>
 </form>
The url generated when this form is send is this:

Code:
 http://myaplication.com/insert.php?text_to_insert=theText
If in the page target "insert.php" there is an AdSense script the AdSense tries to get the page to show contextual ads, and for that send a petition like the url where it is:

Code:
 http://myaplication.com/insert.php?text_to_insert=theText
This is what I call an Adsense's Petition. The petition is done once or twice, and this means that the "insert.php" is called for the Adsense script what means the "theText" is inserted twice or three times.

This is my problem.

Is there any suggestion to protect my application for this kind of Adsense's petitions?

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Old 07-19-2007, 04:22 PM Re: double html form submissions
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the Adsense bot does NOT submit forms.
We DO NOT KNOW what you mean by petition

This is what a petition is. http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...#37;3apetition

Pick one that resembles what you mean.

OR give us a URL and we'll try to work out what you mean.
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:16 AM Re: double html form submissions
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This is what I mean with petition:

apache log:
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66.249.65.145 - - [04/Jul/2007:12:03:01 +0200] "GET /microblog/insert/step02.do?text=hola HTTP/1.1" 200 12847 "-" "Mediapartners-Google/2.1"
And this is also an Adsense bot submit.
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:50 AM Re: double html form submissions
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It is not a "petition" or a submit, it simply the normal HTTP request that ALL user agents make to any page on a webserver.

If you read your logs more closely you will every page request will be a GET method
The only time this will differ is when a form IS submitted using the POST method or a user agent does a header only test (HEAD)
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Old 07-20-2007, 06:05 AM Re: double html form submissions
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Ok, now that I have achieve to explain myself:

Any suggestion for protect my application of this 'Adsense's Http Request' which does double 'html form submits'.

And, if you are on the way to ask me what is an 'html form submit' I'll start to cry .
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Old 07-20-2007, 07:38 AM Re: double html form submissions
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There is NO form being submitted by the Adsense bot

the Adsense bot cannot!!! submit forms

Whatever is happening it is NOTHING to do with the Adsense bot submitting forms

I'll explain something;

The Adsense ads are generated when the adsense javascript is executed by a client browser that is javascript enabled. The Adsense bot does not visit any pages UNTIL the javascript runs

So the multiple request are NOT being caused by the Adsense bot.

Can I ask, is this a problem where multiple inserts are being done to a database from a form?
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:36 AM Re: double html form submissions
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The Adsense ads are generated when the adsense javascript is executed by a client browser that is javascript enabled. The Adsense bot does not visit any pages UNTIL the javascript runs
I know chrishirst, I know.

But for my application the 'visit' of this page:

Code:
66.249.65.145 - - [04/Jul/2007:12:03:01 +0200] "GET /microblog/insert/step02.do?text=hola HTTP/1.1" 200 12847 "-" "Mediapartners-Google/2.1"
is the same that submit this form:

Code:
 <form action="/microblog/insert/step02.do" method="get"> 
  <input type="text" name="text"/> 
  <input type="submit"/>
 </form>
And the 'Adsense's visit', or 'Adsense's petition', or Adsense's Html Request', or whatever you want to call it is exactly this:

Code:
http://myaplication.com/microblog/insert/step02.do?text=hola
And I don't mind if the petition (sorry Http Request) is done before or until the javascript runs.. the point is that the Asense's visit is done. And my application receives the petition (or whatever you want to call it) and the double insert is done.

So, Is there any suggestion for protect my application against the 'Adsense's visits' that my application receive and produce doubles inserts?
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:05 AM Re: double html form submissions
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TAKE THE ADSENSE CODE OFF THE PAGE THAT DOES THE INSERT
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