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Old 01-11-2008, 07:44 AM Newbie needs help!!!!
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Hi everyone!

I'm very interested in Designing website. People tell me that I have to start with HTML design. So I join in this forum to gain more advices in HTML design from you pros. Here are my questions:

1/ What software I need to use?

2/ How can I start design?

3/ How can I register a domain?

4/ What is the key to learn HTML effectively?

Any helps appreciated. Thanks you guy
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:14 AM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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1/ Any text editor.

2/ do you know anything about design? if not find a free template and look how it is put together
Elated Page kits for example.

3/ Registering is only the first step. You then need hosting etc.
Start off with some free hosting space and play on there, your ISP may offer free space.

4/ Read, try it out and understand what does what.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:31 AM Where to Begin with Web Design
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Well, friend, the first thing that you need to know is that to be a real web designer you absolutely must learn to code HTML. There are a lot of programs out there that offer some sweet shortcuts to designing websites, but nothing will ever serve you better or help you appreciate the work you'll do more than writing the pages yourself, in code, one line at a time.

So if you're still interested in beginning you education as a web designer, all you'll need to get the ball rolling is Microsoft Windows' 'Notepad' and 'Paint' programs. As long as you have a computer of your own to work on (because once you start coding, you'll certainly become addicted and monopolize whichever or whoever's system you're using), both programs are available to you by clicking 'Start' --> 'All Programs' --> and then 'Accessories'.

'Notepad' will suffice as your HTML editor, and 'Paint' can handle all your graphics. There not the very best you could start with, but I'm assuming you don't want to spend any money. If this is the case, you've already got everything you need to start designing and you're ready to go.

So Now Here's What You Want Do First:
(You may want to print this out, or something)

1) Open 'Notepad' and copy and paste the 'source code' below into the window that appears.

<html>
<head>
<title></title>
</head>

<body>
</body>

</html>

This is the most basic HTML source code that you can start with. Everything else you'll ever do in web design from here on in will be added or used to elaborate the source shown here.

2) Now, copy and paste this next bit of source between the 'open' body tag (i.e. <body>) and the 'closed' body tag (i.e. </body>).

<p>Coding websites by hand kicks all kinds of a$$</p>

The above bit of source is a simple 'string' of text set between an open paragraph tag (i.e. <p>) and a closed paragraph tag (i.e. <p>).

3) Now what I want you to do is save your work as an '.html' file, which is the standard extension for most viewable files you'll find on the Internet. Click 'File', and then 'Save As'. In the window that appears, click the 'client browsing tab' (down arrow) to browse your computer's files for the 'Desktop'. Select 'Desktop', and in the 'Save as type' section at the bottom of this same window, click the down arrow there and select 'All Files'. Then in the 'File name' section, name your file 'index.html', and then click 'Save'.

Keep 'Notepad' open, but minimize it so you can see your 'Desktop', where your new file should now be saved. Now what we're going to do is view the file, so I want you to double-click the file 'index.html' on your desktop and watch what happens.

Microsoft will automatically call your 'default' browser in to display the .html file that you've created. With that said, you should be seeing a white page with the text "Coding website by hand kicks all kinds of a$$." This page is, for all intent and purposes, a one-page website. It's not online, mind you. But if it were, you'd be able to navigate to it and see your work as it is so far.

To continue editing your work, all you need to do now is keep both 'Notepad' and the default browser open and switch back and forth between the two as you develop your page code further. As long as both programs are open, whenever you make a change to the source code in 'Notepad', save it by simply clicking 'File', then 'Save', and then switch over to the browser and click the refresh button. Because you saved the changes you made in 'Notepad', the browser will automatically show these changes because it has to reloading the file inorder to refresh the page.

Okay, So Now What? Right?

As I've already mentioned: Everything you'll ever do in web design from here on in will be a modification of the work you've just done (if you're actually following through with this set of instructions). So now all you need to do to begin developing more complex, cooler pages is learn about the many ways in which your work can be modified.

I have a small web coding reference that may be of some use to you. The links you'll want to check out there are the 'Paul McFedries' link at the top of the page and the links found on the right under 'HTML References & Tutorial'. They will really help you along as you begin you continue your education in website design.

Regardless of what links you choose, the sites they will navigate you to are choked with information. And never forget about Internet searches. You'll use them more than any other resource to help you figure out how to code things into your pages.

The first thing you're going to want to look up is how to place images on your new web page, and what formats these images should be saved in before they're posted to the web. You'll probably realize right away that you're going to need some server space, and a program to help you put them there. The program that you're going to need is called an 'ftp' client (File Transfer Protocol). I recommend 'Smartftp' (I believe they may have a free 30 day trial you can take advantage of). As for the server space, just contact me. If you're really intersted, I'll give you some developer space for $5 a month to help you out. This offer is about as good as it gets for developer space, and is it's only available to you. Registering a domain, and all that, comes with...

Good luck, friend,
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:48 PM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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Hey,
The lion is right - learn HTML!! Its very important! Get "HTML for dummies" very good book to start off with!
If you have microsoft front page, thats good to start of with, to get a feel of web deisgn!

Know the coding - Know the design!
Registering domains is easy - go to a website who sells domains i.e godaddy
enter your domain check to see if free, click buy and your done....however if you dont want to use there web hosting you will need to change the nameservers...however thats a long way to go the now!
LEARN HTML! Then you will be able to get your web design talents going!

Hope this helps!
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:29 PM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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Desiging in HTML is the simplest yet could be a difficult task. If you are starting to learn HTML, then you could use many of the online resources for learning HTML. The most popular and commendable is www.w3schools.com. Just go to the HTML section and start practising. Here is the direct link.

However, as a newbie you may find it difficult to remember the syntax so I would suggest to use a notepad which is slightly tweaked to show syntax and code in color. Use GSNote. I use it too. It has a nice and simple interface just like notepad and you can also carry it over in your USB drive. You can download it here

Next open a free account at any of the free hosting providers. You can also use geocities or googlepages. Now start writng your code, save them as HTML file and upload it to those free accounts to see how it looks. When you see it perfectly, you should know that you just designed your first HTML page

Now you can tweak it with more code and learn more. You can also see web usability guidelines for HTML from www.w3.org. They are important for a well designed standard HTML pages. Once you are through, you will be a master HTML coder. But it takes a lot of time to grab all the information and implement it.

You can register your domain with any registrar. However, I would suggest you to look for special promotions and check several registrars for the right price. You can get a .com domain for as low as $5.95 or as high as $35. so take your pick.

I hope this helped.

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Hi everyone!

I'm very interested in Designing website. People tell me that I have to start with HTML design. So I join in this forum to gain more advices in HTML design from you pros. Here are my questions:

1/ What software I need to use?

2/ How can I start design?

3/ How can I register a domain?

4/ What is the key to learn HTML effectively?

Any helps appreciated. Thanks you guy
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:15 PM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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after html, then CSS right? do you recommend java, php sql ruby etc after that? in which order
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Old 01-14-2008, 05:59 PM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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After you have a rather good understanding of HTML, yes, you could go into CSS when you want to evolve more your designing skills.
The third programming language depends. Do you already know any programming language? PHP is a good option, but you will need to have a server working with PHP (set yourself one by googling "xammp", and install that, or use some other on the internet).
The other choice is JavaScript (oh yeah: Java, JavaScript or JScript are all diferent things). It is a bit more dificult than PHP but you don't need a server for it (just write, save and open with an Internet Explorer). I don't have much info o JavaScript, I almost can't do anything with it.

at www.tizag.com they seem to have good tutorials, I learned CSS there.
HTML and PHP I learned on www.freewebmasterhelp.com , but that site got some old info of code that you should not use anymore (on HTML at most)

Of Ruby I don't really got any info, can you use that with the Internet?
Of SQL, it is needed when you want to create sites with Databases (needs a server with support for that), a language (or syntax?) you could take a look is MySQL.

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Old 01-14-2008, 06:19 PM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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1/ What software I need to use? - Notepad or dreameaver

2/ How can I start design? learn to code HTML

3/ How can I register a domain? Through a domain registrar

4/ What is the key to learn HTML effectively? Read a book or go through a tutorial
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:06 AM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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1/ What software I need to use? - Notepad, Notepad 2, Notepad++

Unlike what most people say, don't use Dreamweaver because it will complicate everything too much for a beginner. You should just focus on the code. You want to really get a hang of writing each part yourself, without auto complete and all those helper programs. Why, you might ask? Those will make you dependent on them, and you will never really understand whats going on.

2/ How can I start design? Learn HTML, then CSS

3/ How can I register a domain? Godaddy.com

4/ What is the key to learn HTML effectively?

Reading a lot, and trying things out. I repeat, you must play around with the code in order to start to understand it. Change it, see what happens. Keep doing that until you get what your looking for. Don't just memorize tags, that will get you nowhere.

As for an order for learning languages:
HTML, CSS, PHP, Javascript

And databases (those will come after you understand PHP)
MySQL
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:10 AM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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I highly recommend going on limewire and downloading and printing as many books as you can about web design and languages. then put these books in a binder and read them as you do the tutorials.

the help its giving me right now is awesome; im in the same boat as TC
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Old 01-15-2008, 04:08 AM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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Dreamweaver is the most trusted application in the market today..I use it for all of the php , css, xhtml 1.0 related purposes...Try it if you don't have..
Well the buddies above too give some nice suggestions which too are worth money.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:48 AM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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Here's a fairly cheap web editor that works really well. It's 'Namo Web Editor'. I'd post a referral to it, but I get in trouble here for that, so just do a search. You can probably pick it up just about anywhere. But it's a nice compromise between cost and functionality.

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Old 01-16-2008, 09:04 AM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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Wow. A lot of tutorials to pick from. Hope you learned something from it. Just be patient, always. Good Luck!
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:54 PM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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Long time no see, you guys!

Thanks for your helps. I can do in "very" simple HTML website . But I just think my domain name in my mind, coz I don't know to register a domain and what server to be put it on. I want to register a domain but where to buy? And the server is needed, what servers are stable and price is?

@ Lion: thanks for your useful instruction!
@ InfinitySchima: sorry pro, I still not know what the CSS is? I will try to learn it. But things are simple to me now.

Thanks again you guys.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:45 AM Re: Newbie needs help!!!!
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er The Lion. i think you're forgetting your doctype from that code! not a very good example of how to learn html
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