I am working on a site and its going good except today I noticed that the when the page is brought up in internet explorer i don't like the space it puts between the lines particularly the buy now button area.. I have tried so many different changes to fix this prolbem and have just wasted my whole evening...

In case you don't have firefox heres a screen shot of how i would like this to look.. http://www.legaldro.com/screenshot.bmp

website page http://www.legaldro.com/chillinxxx2.html

http://www.legaldro.com

and in internet explorer i used version 7.0 It wants to put line spacing in where i don't want it...

Your help is soooo greatly appreciated !!
CHAD

I've had this exact problem before and I came to realize that it was the <form> tag that causes it. IE is just weird like that. I never did find a way to fix it. I'll search for it some more, if you find out how to fix the problem let me know if you don't mind.

Found something pretty quickly. The site I located said that the reason for the extra white space is because when the <form> tag is within a <TD> tag certain browsers will read it like a <p> tag. I tried this out myself and it treated it like a <p> tag regardless of whether it was in a <TD> or not. The way around it is <form style="margin: 0">. That's what worked for me. The site I found also said you can use <form style="display:inline"> but I didn't try that one. Hope this works for you.

TributeK is correct...the <form> tag is a block level element in css so the default behavior is to add a line space above and below the tag but altering the default behavior using

style="display:inline"

will change your form tag to an inline element.

I've always just added this to my CSS:

<style>
form {
 margin:0px;
}
</style>

Note, you should always add the units of measurement.

Originally Posted by JeremyMiller

I've always just added this to my CSS:

<style>
form {
 margin:0px;
}
</style>

Note, you should always add the units of measurement.

Doh, I've always suffered from extreme programming laziness and just plain bad habits. Good advice.

Wow, that's some really kick-butt stuff, man. I had this problem too, and the way I always dealt with it was to place as much as I could in the same form and then just deal with the spacing at the bottom. I've been handling it this way for so long that I just plain lost interest in finding an answer. And after all this time, it finds me...

Thanks so much.

Is it legal?

"Note, you should always add the units of measurement." but you don't have to if it's zero, Jeremy

Originally Posted by davemies

"Note, you should always add the units of measurement." but you don't have to if it's zero, Jeremy

Note that I said "should" and not "must." It's a good practice to always use units, however. http://www.quirksmode.org/css/quirksmode.html#t13

hmm but your 'should' implies that it wouldn't be ok to omit it for zero, when it's perfectly legitimate to do so.

Originally Posted by davemies

hmm but your 'should' implies that it wouldn't be ok to omit it for zero, when it's perfectly legitimate to do so.

I'm not sure where you're trying to go with the semantics of this. Yes, you can ignore it. You can also never comment your code -- that's as perfectly legitimate, right? Is either a good idea? In my opinion, no.

Not sure if the site to good but using units should ( hopefully ) fix the problem

"Yes, you can ignore it. You can also never comment your code -- that's as perfectly legitimate, right? Is either a good idea? In my opinion, no."

not the same thing: commenting your code is useful but using units on a value of zero is purely a matter of personal preference.

my point is just that: that you can choose to use '0' with units or without. why is not a good idea to not use units with zero in your opinion?

@davemies: Let's just agree to disagree on this one. It's optional either way and we both have different preferences. No harm, no foul.

Have a great day!

Thank you so much jermey the method you told me about the ccs worked great. Yesterday i tried the inline but I couldn't get it to work, where do you use that one, in the form? also y'll talking about taking out the comments to clean up the code? (Think i could clean up the ccs too but not sure what to remove)


ps. yeah its legal wouldn't touch it otherwise not for the faint hearted tho anyway I'm really happy I got you all to help me. Its been years since i did html etc....

Thanks,
chad

Originally Posted by Legaldro

...where do you use that one, in the form?

I use it in the stylesheet itself so that it applies to all forms -- I've never needed my forms to have spacing.

Originally Posted by Legaldro

also y'll talking about taking out the comments to clean up the code?

I'm not. Commenting is a good thing. Since it doesn't make the code work, it's unnecessary but it's still a good idea to add in the comments. The rest of the debate was on why one of us prefers adding in units while the other does not and there my mathematics comes into play -- no units means a bad grade, but it's totally preferential. I'm just not worried about saving a couple of bytes of information and 2 keystrokes, so I add them in as that keeps my code consistent.

Like units where the value is 0? sorry if i'm lost...

Actually, "0" has no units of measurement. 0 what? 0 apples? 0 oranges? 0 ems? 0 px? Not all zeroes are equal. Sometimes browsers can figure out what you mean because you're obviously, for example, not talking about apples in this case. I prefer, however, to be specific and declare 0px or 0em to indicate that it's zero units of space.

Yes, I do the same too ... just makes me feal better bout it