In the beginning I took a Web Design class in high school, and I was told to never use frames, they're stupid. But then I am reading around online to not use tables. Why should I use tables and not frames, or frames and not talbes. Or does it not matter?

Thanks.

There's nothing wrong with using tables, for tabular data. They should not be used for layout, and neither should frames.

Oh ok.. Thanks

You might want to read these articles:
http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/everything.html

http://www.webaccessstrategies.com/b...rames-are-bad/

u can use tables and frames as such nothing wrong.. but as advised at many places that not all search engines are able to index pages with frames it is not recommended..

tables are one of the most beautiful gifts of html, how can you not use them.. though they are little heavy becoz of the size.. so that is why lot of tables in a single page is to be avoided!!

tables are one of the most beautiful gifts of html

Oh please.. don't make me gag.
Tables are fine for TABLUAR DATA, they should NOT be used for layout!
Why avoid tables ? Read the information in the links I posted !!!

I think one of the main problems is that <table> is one of the first things any web designer learns, CSS is always resigned to the last chapters, or in another page of learning or whatever, which automatically makes people assume is it harder or more advanced.

I think the solution is for there to be more readily available easy to follow tutorials for beginner webmasters that teach CSS along side HTML. Too many websites say tables = bad - use CSS, and even if they state their claim well it still sounds like opinion. What they should be saying is, hey, want to layout out something on a 3x3 grid? easy, use CSS....

I agree... schools and tutorials need to stop teaching tables for layout to beginners!

When I started to design website "easy and small one", when i was doing research work, I read that it is not suitable to use table. Instead css is appropriate. Then I did more research and found out that some web developers are still using tables. Well, what i guess is "It is not suitable for using table but no one has prevent to use it". Those websites using table are nice. And I agree that school should pay more emphasis on css. Learning start at school..
Concerning frame, I have stop using it.