Hey guys I am trying to get my page to XHTML 1.0 Transitional
and any time I add a flash banner of any kind it fails. Is there anything I can do to use flash banners and still pass validator?

I am asking here because I am using php tidy to help me correct the code.

Can you post your source (html not php) or a link to the page with the banner?

I am asking here because I am using php tidy to help me correct the code.

Not a big deal, but really this is more of a question for the HTML forum considering the problem lies in the HTML code not the PHP.

In my sig.

http://www.bmcoll.com

I will add the banner back in in the next 5 minutes or so so you can see the errors by clicking the wc3 banner at the bottom
I took it out in frustration

I added the banner back in Now I shows errors all in the flash code

I think the embed tag is in the HTML 5 standard, but not the XHTML Trans standard. Not much you can do as far as I'm aware.

I guess my real question is will search engines dislike my page because of the errors? I can use non flash banners for my affiliate code if I need to I just kind of like the moving picture thing it catches the eye.

You guys on this forum have commented on my code not being up to par. And I wrote the php code to use tidy and fix that but I have never heard what effect it has on search placement.

Someone more knowledgeable can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that search engines are concerned with more severe errors. I doubt any of the search engines care if you use an embed tag in xhtml 1.0 instead of html5. All of the errors on your site stem from that embed tag and its attributes so I think you're in the clear.

Thanks a bunch to any and every body who tries to help me. I have spent many hours reading about seo and the best way I have found to get the code looking good is with the php tidy Plus I can write php (not a guru though) . I still am learning about keywords and description But I must be doing something right I get more hits from search each month maybe in 50 or so years I might get a lot of traffic LOL
But it was some one here that tore apart my code a few months ago and made me rethink every thing and start cleaning it up.

Originally Posted by bmcoll3278

I guess my real question is will search engines dislike my page because of the errors?

Validation isn't really the final word although it has a lot of say. Search engines won't punish you (unless you really screwed up) but you may get issues with browsers/platforms if you don't comply with standards.

This will help you validate your flash code:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay

I say, who cares? Search engines won't care one lick if you have an embed tag on your page. EMBED was supported by browsers way before OBJECT ever became standard, and it was a mistake by the standard's committee to ever propose OBJECT in the first place, when EMBED was already standard practice. Now we have all those ridiculous object tags with embed tags as children because of this.

The <embed> has NEVER been valid, for any doctype (until HTML 5). It was initially a proprietary tag for Netscape and therefore not part of the standards.

Originally Posted by LadynRed

The <embed> has NEVER been valid, for any doctype (until HTML 5). It was initially a proprietary tag for Netscape and therefore not part of the standards.

Yes, but it was supported by IE also, until the W3C came along and decided to invent OBJECT. Everything that is standardized now was at one point or another a proprietary method. For some reason they made an exception for EMBED, even though it was perfectly fine. The result is that now all browsers support both embed tags and object tags. This is why it is "coming back" in HTML 5.

will php tidy output html5 ?

HTML 5 hasn't been standardized yet, so no.