Do you find that kompozer leaves behind messy html code (that won't show)?

I recently acquired Dream Weaver and found that kompoZer left a lot of Span tags and random paragraph tags.

I found that its not exactly the best program if your serious about your sites. I know a lot of people may argue with me, but if you can just stick to Dreamweaver - you can't go wrong there. Kompozer is great for what it is, but it shouldn't replace any of the more professional software.

No, kompoZer does not do anything special at all.

You get what you pay for I guess.

I find them all mesys, Kompozer, dw, fpage etc. i code in notepad

I like Kompozer, I don't find it messy at all

Originally Posted by wallabee80

I find them all mesys, Kompozer, dw, fpage etc. i code in notepad

That's a lot of memorizing.

You can make a website in many applications, such as Microsoft word. It's coded correctly some how, but when you look at it (or at least me) I have no clue what it means. Stick with hand coding your site. It won't be AS messy as those programs that you drag stuff.

You can DL a version of the first link you provided, but it is still very early - pre-alpha. Looks promising, but you must use KompoZer to wait a long time before this catches.

All WYSIWYG editors generate appalling code: iWeb, Dreamweaver, KompoZer etc etc. This is simply down to the nature of how they work. It's not even worth trying to streamline it most fo the time, I simply recommend using an HTML editor or text editor rather than allowing any editor to generate code for you.

that's a really good point, and totally on topic too. Bravo.

I hand code in Notepad. I have never found an editor that didn't make some kind of mess.

Haha! You think? I left Komposer for exactly the same reasons. In addition, this software is not for you if you look for a professionnal website.

Originally Posted by Twirp54

That's a lot of memorizing.

You can make a website in many applications, such as Microsoft word. It's coded correctly some how, but when you look at it (or at least me) I have no clue what it means. Stick with hand coding your site. It won't be AS messy as those programs that you drag stuff.

It's not a lot of memorizing, really.
It's mostly memorizing and then understanding
I taught myself how to make websites in Notepad when I was 15. I'm 24 now, and I still use Notepad.

IMO using programs to create websites is cheating (that's just my opinion, no offense to those who use Dreamweaver, etc), and it's actually more work for those of us who use Notepad. (we have to take out a lot of crap we dont want and move things around, and re-name things, and blah blah blah) Using anything other than a text editor over complicates things AND you never REALLY learn what you're doing. All you're really learning how to do is click menu options; and I guess that's fine if you're just trying to pass a class. Personally, I think teachers should be teaching students how to actually write html, css, javascript, asp, php (etc) with their mind, instead of with a program they have to resort to pirating

I'm not saying I'm a pro, I'm self taught. I never had someone show me if I'm doing something right or wrong. I'm just giving my honest opinion. Programs actually are useful learning tools for a novice, I just don't think you should use them if you're serious about making websites. How can you call it your work if all you did was click a few buttons? It might be faster, but so is making a skeleton and adjusting it as needed