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Old 04-20-2005, 04:22 PM Table Talk!
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Ok, Im new here. I dont really like to code. I am getting alittle better at it each template I make though. Ok so here is my problem. I am the owner of www.final-glory.net and I just made a new layout for it... ( www.final-glory.net/grunge ) and I hate tables.... I did all the navigation on the left. Then when I went to type in the content it either went way down to like the middle of the page or the navigation got pulled down. How do I code it so they are not stuck togather basicly? I took some screen shots of the code and such to try and help you understand.

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maybe you should have just copied and pasted the code in between the code tags? and linked to the site? I dunno its hard to read as I have to scroll from left to right
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:36 PM
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i agree with brokensoul2271, you won't get many replys! But if you want to fix things like data being displayed half way down a table, valign the table to top
HTML Code:
VALIGN="TOP"
Sorry man, links and code pasting is optimal!
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I dont use tables and i dint learn with tables either so i realy dont know what i'm talking about but shouldnt you set the content table/cel rowspan to a higher number? like however manyrows high the stuff on the left is?
Sory if that was completly wrong like i say im not a table kinda guy...
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:24 PM
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Ok well here is the code...

Code:
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Final-Glory.net || Where Dreams Become Reality</TITLE>
<META name="description" content="Final-Glory is a tutorials website, with tutorials such as Gamer Template, Slicing and Much More!">
<meta name="keywords" content="Adobe, Tutorials, wrestling, psds, php, photoshop, photoshop 6, photoshop 7, crazy electric, stealth designz, stealth, designz, 3d logo, vectoring, sticky tape, psd cutting, 3 pixel border, scan lines, plastic button, gel button, electric metal, jett text, twister text, chocolate, spikes, rainbow image, unique starburst, sulphur flame, day 2 night, gel blast, 3 texts, super metal chrome, metallic orbs, movie strip, plasma slime, mosaic header, fur cutting, gold rush, uni ball, citroen logo, audi logo, cat woman, car, custom ride, andy, agentxl, acarisborn, a car is born">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<style type="text/css">
<!--
body, td, th {
	font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 12px;
	color: #52514D;
}
body {
	margin-left: 0px;
	margin-top: 0px;
	margin-right: 0px;
	margin-bottom: 0px;
}
a {
	font-size: 12px;
	color: #000000;
}
a:link {
	text-decoration: none;
	color: #52514D;
}
a:visited {
	text-decoration: none;
	color: #52514D;
}
a:hover {
	text-decoration: none;
	color: #E2DCD0;
}
a:active {
	text-decoration: none;
	color: #52514D;
}
.style2 {color: #E1DBCF}
.style1 {font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif}
-->
</style>
</HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR=#454440 LEFTMARGIN=0 TOPMARGIN=0 MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0>
<TABLE WIDTH=862 BORDER=0 CELLPADDING=0 CELLSPACING=0>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=16>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_01.jpg" WIDTH=862 HEIGHT=32 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=32 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=8 ROWSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_02.jpg" WIDTH=649 HEIGHT=120 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=2>
			<a href="contact.php"><IMG SRC="images/index_03.jpg" ALT="" WIDTH=43 HEIGHT=54 border="0"></a></TD>
		<TD ROWSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_04.jpg" WIDTH=4 HEIGHT=120 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<a href="map.php"><IMG SRC="images/index_05.jpg" ALT="" WIDTH=47 HEIGHT=54 border="0"></a></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=2>
			<a href="faq.php"><IMG SRC="images/index_06.jpg" ALT="" WIDTH=44 HEIGHT=54 border="0"></a></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=2 ROWSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_07.jpg" WIDTH=75 HEIGHT=120 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=54 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_08.jpg" WIDTH=43 HEIGHT=66 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=3>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_09.jpg" WIDTH=91 HEIGHT=66 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=66 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=16>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_10.jpg" WIDTH=862 HEIGHT=24 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=24 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=6>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_11.jpg" WIDTH=556 HEIGHT=11 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD ROWSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_12.jpg" WIDTH=75 HEIGHT=75 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=2 ROWSPAN=4>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_13.jpg" WIDTH=49 HEIGHT=117 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=4 ROWSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_14.jpg" WIDTH=75 HEIGHT=75 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=3 ROWSPAN=4>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_15.jpg" WIDTH=107 HEIGHT=117 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=11 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=2 ROWSPAN=3>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_16.jpg" WIDTH=73 HEIGHT=106 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=3 ROWSPAN=2>
			<IFRAME SRC="art.htm" NAME="art" WIDTH=175 HEIGHT=75 FRAMEBORDER=0 target="art"></IFRAME></TD>
		<TD ROWSPAN=3>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_18.jpg" WIDTH=308 HEIGHT=106 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=64 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD ROWSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_19.jpg" WIDTH=75 HEIGHT=42 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=4 ROWSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_20.jpg" WIDTH=75 HEIGHT=42 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=11 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=3>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_21.jpg" WIDTH=175 HEIGHT=31 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=31 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_22.jpg" WIDTH=30 HEIGHT=24 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=14 ROWSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_23.jpg" WIDTH=759 HEIGHT=26 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_24.jpg" WIDTH=73 HEIGHT=24 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=24 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD ROWSPAN=5 background="images/index_22.jpg">&nbsp;			</TD>
		<TD ROWSPAN=5 background="images/index_24.jpg" bgcolor="#454440">&nbsp;</TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=2 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=2 td background="images/index_31.jpg"><img src="images/nav1.jpg" width="166" height="18">
			<table width="100%"  border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
              <tr>
              </tr>
            </table></TD>
		<TD ROWSPAN=4 background="images/index_22.jpg">&nbsp;			</TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=11 ROWSPAN=2 background="images/index_29.jpg"><table width="100%"  border="0" cellpadding="7" cellspacing="0" class="style1" VALIGN="TOP">
              <tr>
                <th scope="col"><p align="left" class="style1">OK when I type in the main updates part the General Menu goes down with it...</p>
                  <p align="left" class="style1">&nbsp;</p>
                  <p align="left" class="style1">&nbsp;</p>
                  <p align="left" class="style1">&nbsp;</p>
                  <p align="left" class="style1">&nbsp;</p>
                  <p align="left" class="style1">The line below this always lines up with the bottom of the first table if you can see that..... The father I go down the father it goes down..... And the menu table sits in the middle of it. Which I dont want! </p></th>
              </tr>
            </table>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=20 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=2 background="images/index_30.jpg"><table width="100%"  border="0" cellpadding="7" cellspacing="0" class="style1" VALIGN="TOP">
          <tr>
            <th scope="col"><p align="left" class="style1"><a href="index.php">Home</a><br>
                <a href="forum">Forum</a><br>
                <a href="affiliates.php">Affiliates</a><br>
                <a href="staff.php">Staff</a><br>
                <a href="resources.php">Resources</a><br>
                <a href="portfolio.php">Portfolio</a></p>
            </th>
          </tr>
        </table>
	    </TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=16 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=2 td background="images/index_31.jpg"><img src="images/nav2.jpg" width="166" height="18">
		  <table width="100%"  border="0" cellpadding="7" cellspacing="0" class="style1" VALIGN="TOP">
            <tr>
              <th scope="col"><p align="left"><a href="88x31.php">88 x 31 Buttons</a><br>
                  <a href="logo.php">Logo's</a><br>
                  <a href="ftemplate.php">Template's</a><br>
                  <a href="pattern.php">Pattern's</a></p></th>
            </tr>
          </table>		  <img src="images/nav3.jpg" width="166" height="18"><table width="100%"  border="0" cellpadding="7" cellspacing="0" class="style1" VALIGN="TOP">
            <tr>
              <th scope="col"><p align="left"><a href="photoshop.php">Photoshop</a><br>
                  <a href="php.php">PHP</a><br>
                  <a href="html.php">HTML</a><br>
                  <a href="dreamweaver.php">Dreamweaver</a></p></th>
            </tr>
          </table>
          <img src="images/nav4.jpg" width="166" height="18">
          <table width="100%"  border="0" cellpadding="7" cellspacing="0" class="style1">
            <tr>
              <th scope="col"><p align="left"><a href="http://www.thedesignworld.com" target="_blank">The Design World</a><br>
                  <a href="http://www.sv.final-glory.net" target="_blank">Second Vision </a><br>
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                  <a href="http://www.clantemplates.com" target="_blank">Clan Templates </a></p></th>
            </tr>
          </table>
          <img src="images/nav5.jpg" width="166" height="18"><table width="100%"  border="0" cellpadding="7" cellspacing="0" class="style1" VALIGN="TOP">
            <tr>
              <th scope="col"><p align="left"><a href="versions.php">Site Versions </a><br>
                  <a href="faq.php">F.A.Q.</a><br>
                  <a href="advertise.php">Advertise</a><br>
                  <a href="contact.php">Contact</a></p></th>
            </tr>
          </table></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=11 td background="images/index_32.jpg"><p align="left" class="style1"></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=10 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=2>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_33.jpg" WIDTH=166 HEIGHT=8 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD COLSPAN=11>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_34.jpg" WIDTH=584 HEIGHT=8 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=8 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=16>
			<IMG SRC="images/index_35.jpg" WIDTH=862 HEIGHT=117 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=117 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD COLSPAN=16 background="images/index_36.jpg">			<div align="center" class="style1 style2">
		  <p class="style2">Home | Forum | Staff | Patterns | Photoshop  | Resources | 88x31 Buttons | Contact<br>
		    Privacy Statement | Terms and Conditions		    <br>
		  </p>
	    </div></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=10 ALT=""></TD>
	</TR>
	<TR>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=30 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=43 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=123 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=9 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=43 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=308 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=75 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=18 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=31 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=12 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=4 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=47 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=12 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=32 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=2 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD>
			<IMG SRC="images/spacer.gif" WIDTH=73 HEIGHT=1 ALT=""></TD>
		<TD></TD>
	</TR>
</TABLE>

</BODY>
</HTML>

and here is a image of what it looks like in dream weaver...

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Tables ar so complicated..could you not just use css instead?
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:47 PM
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Tables ar so complicated..could you not just use css instead?
If you would like to explain how to use css then Id love to...
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If you would like to explain how to use css then Id love to...
w3schools.com has some good explinations...

Also try google...
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