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**Zoddman1** · 12:06 AM

Hello, I have recently uploaded a SWF file and everything is fine in IE but in the above mentioned browsers it will not show. Any ideas. I have tried rearranging the code in every way I can think of.
http://www.showandtell-graphics.com/

**vangogh** · 11:58 PM

I think you need to use the <embed> tag inside of the object tag for netsacep and Firefox, so your code might look something like:

HTML Code:

<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,29,0" width="160" height="300">
    <param name="movie" value="/images/RJH_lavalamp.swf">
    <param name="quality" value="high">
codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0
<embed src="/images/RJH_lavalamp.swf" width="160" height="300" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed>  </object>

**Zoddman1** · 03-03-2006, 12:33 AM

Thanks for responding vangogh, I appreciate it. I seem to be going in circles here. I posted earlier about how once I put in this flash swf file that I wasn't validated by w3c standards. Neroux suggested that the embed tag might be the culprit. He was right. I took care of that and suddenly firefox and netscape is all screwed up. Now it seems that I have to put back the original embed tags so that those browsers will display it. By the way vangogh, that did take care of that problem. Now I am back to where I started. All looks good in the browsers, but my w3c validation is no longer good. Ahhh! Another thing that is odd is that when I "preview in browser" in Dreamweaver, I don't see the swf file in firefox or netscape. I have to actually upload to my server and look at it on the web as opposed to my hard drive, and then it works, as long as I have the embed tags in.

Not sure really where to go from here. Should I just not worry about the w3c validation and just make sure that all is viewable in said browsers? I realize that most people use IE, but I would really like as many people as possible to be able to view the site as I see it.

Thanks

**Zoddman1** · 03-03-2006, 12:43 AM

I tell ya, I just went and popped in several sites that come up high on a google search and they all do not pass the w3c validation. Even on the Adobe website. Is this all a bunch of hoo haw that I should not spend any more time worrying about or what?

Thanks

**vangogh** · 03-03-2006, 01:05 AM

I think the <embed> tag was the old way of doing things and <object> is where things are heading, but Netscape always used <embed> and Firefox must have adopted it. Or maybe <embed> was just the Netscape way while <object> was the IE way.

What are you using as a doctype?

I'm seeing the same things you are with Flash sites not validating. Maybe this is one area that IE got write and other browsers got wrong.

**Zoddman1** · 03-03-2006, 01:27 AM

Excuse my ignorance vangogh, but I am not sure what you mean by doctype.

**Zoddman1** · 03-03-2006, 01:31 AM

Also, when I put that flash file in I used Dreamweaver in the design view. It created the HTML for me, and the embed tag is what it used.
So.... hmmm.

**Zoddman1** · 03-03-2006, 01:36 AM

This is what it says at the top of my HTML if that is what you mean.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN""http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">Once again this is automatically generated by Dreamweaver when you create a new HTML file.

**vangogh** · 03-03-2006, 12:54 PM

That's exactly what I meant by doctype. I had seen something on that mentioned the <embed> tag not validating when using 'strict' in the doctype and figured I'd ask though I had a feeling that wasn't going to be the issue. Thought it might be worth a shot though.

I thnk you have to live with the one line of code not validating for the moment. If I find out anything about how to get it to work and validated I'll let you know. I typically don't use Flash, but it would be nice to know how to get the code to validate for the times I do use it.

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