Is there any advantage of making a web site using Tables or do you have to use Frames.

totally different things entirely and NO! there is no need for frames at all.

There are usess for frames, Chris, it's just frowned upon in higher society. I use iFrames on my site, because I dont feel like setting my site up completely on php includes, and having a page reload everytime my visitor opens it. Howeveer my site is a personal site, and most people who view it know nothing about coding, and are teenagers, like me, so I can get away with that .

Tables are good in some cases, but are becoming outdated as well. I suggest you take a peak into CSS layouts.

None of the above. If you want to code the W3C standards you should use Div's and Iframes.

Tables are for tabular data only, frames are outdated.

CSS for layout is best (quicker download time and less code), but tables are exceptable. I would ALWAYS avoid frames if possible.

And -- Iframes is not frames.

But be warned. when using iframes for content it is will have a negative impact on seo. run your page with the iframe. then view page source on this page. Notice that the content from the page loaded in the iframe is not present. spiders will not see this info..(Especially putting navigation in an iframe is very inefficient.) It will see the content between the iframe open and close tags. but if you are loading different pages into the same iframe, the search engines are not going to see all of this content.

An iss include would work better if there truly is a need, or a good reason like navigation. If you are just loading html content into your page, why not just have seperate html pages. To have includes just because you can, isn't the best reason to do so. search engines do like hard coded html pages the best.. the simplier we keep it. the better it usually is all the way around.

I use tables, and yes they may not be as good as CSS, but they are eaasy for me to locate and fix. I am new to this stuff, so for now, tables are my best friend

I do understand colochris, We have all been there. I guess what we are encouraging new ones is to learn css "more" sooner than later. We all wish that we had.

There is a learning curve so learning to use tables for content is part of this. learning to use tables for content helps teach us the visual aspect of the web.

However, I see the new things people are doing with css, and I am getting excited. They are not just emulating the look of the tables layout. There are so many more opportunities with using css that go way beyond the use of the "tables" look. Just make sure that you don't get caught in emulating this look when you learn css layout. Try new things, see what is possible..

(Sorry this isn't just focused toward you colochris. )