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Is it safe to use <h7>?
Old 06-11-2006, 11:06 PM Is it safe to use <h7>?
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I have more than six styles of headings. Is it safe to use the <h7> tag?
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Old 06-11-2006, 11:36 PM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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Hi Maedi,

H7 is not an html tag. I believe that if FireFox runs accross this tag it will display any css for the tag, however IE probablywill not.

Safe? According to what? The police won't come and arrest you, or you're not going to break out in a rash, so it is safe in these instances.

However, it isn't proper html markup. It isn't going to validate and, it isn't going to accomplish what you want.

I would just use the p element to display the final heading and use css..

Oh and if a rash persists, see your doctor as soon as possible..
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Old 06-11-2006, 11:44 PM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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K, I guess im left to doing something like this <span class="header7">txt</span>, instead of something simpler such as <h7>txt</h7>.

What does everyone else do?

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Old 06-11-2006, 11:44 PM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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Just like ChipJohns said, using the <p> paragraph element along with the <strong> element to make the text stand out bold and on its own line.

btw - good luck with that rash
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Old 06-12-2006, 12:01 AM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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There are only so many elements. Im questioning what everyone uses, after those elements are depleted.
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Old 06-12-2006, 12:17 AM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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K, I guess im left to doing something like this <span class="header7">txt</span>, instead of something simpler such as <h7>txt</h7>.

What does everyone else do?

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<p class="header7">

Instead of placing the span element around p why not just apply the class to a p element..? This way you are still using markup properly. The span element is really for use on a part of another element

EX: <p> Now is the time for all good men to <span>come to the aid</span> of their family</P>

The span element does not cause a line break like p does. Since your entire line is going to be representative of the element, I would use p with the css class.

Hope this makes sense.
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Old 06-12-2006, 12:53 AM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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Do you really need to go 7 levels deep in headings? That seems like quite a lot. I hardly ever need more than 3, maybe 4 at most. I'm wondering if some of those lower lever headings are really headings at all. Sorry it just seems like a lot.
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Old 06-12-2006, 01:11 AM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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I guess I've never learn't the proper structure. I've been using div and span tags to style everything. Now I'm using p tags for text, h* for headings, etc.

I'd be interested on learning about the correct markup for everything.
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Old 06-12-2006, 01:22 AM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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Check this out Maedi,

http://www.csszengarden.com/

At first it is a little daunting but the learning curve is very steep. Once you get it, you get it and learn very quickly. You will never go back to tables or improper use of html or css. It really is awesome.

ZenGareden gives some great examles to look at and study.

You are about to embark on an exciting new process that is going to change your entire approach to Web development! @;-)
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:21 AM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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There are only so many elements. Im questioning what everyone uses, after those elements are depleted.
You use CSS. What exactly are you doing that requires 7 or more 'levels' ??
If you're sectioning off content, you may be better off defining new DIVs and then styling the h1-h6 headings within it using CSS specificity, like this: #divname h2. That would change the stlye of an h2 ONLY inside that div and you don't need a gazillion spans with classes and you surely don't need to invent elements.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:12 PM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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We write our own DOCTYPEs to handle it, well I'm not sure about "we" but I would probably write a new DOCTYPE to handle what I wanted if that was the only viable choice, it's usually your only choice when working with XML and you want parser to understand it efficiently.

As others have suggested, the P element is suitable for this considering SPAN is an inline element and all Hn elements are block level which P is too.

Or alternatively just use the headers you have like h1-h6 and style them within a class of their own but the need to actually go that far into creating headers should be looked at and should probably check if they're being used correctly and properly, since I've never really encountered a site that makes complete use of all those headers unless they were demonstrating it.

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Old 06-23-2006, 02:55 PM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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if you have over 6 headings. i think you should consider restructuring your site.
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Old 06-23-2006, 05:18 PM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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If you want to start from the ground up, I'd suggest w3 schools. They have a great tutorial system that teaches you everything you need to know about html, css, and so much more.

http://www.w3schools.com/
(I tell a lot of people this)

In regards to what I use. I never have used more than three header styles. I often use lists, and class's to get the results I'm looking for.

If you're wondering what you might be doing wrong when you code HTML, and/or CSS you can try using the w3 markup validation service. It's free and it tells you everything you're doing wrong. I never publish a site without using it on every page.

http://validator.w3.org/
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:51 AM Re: Is it safe to use <h7>?
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hm... I think <h7> tag is not recomended, as I know there are tags only from <h1> to <h6>
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