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Old 08-04-2006, 10:39 AM Website for Blind people
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Greetings to all.
I want to make a website for 2 friends that are blind. I've never done anything like this, and allready started to read WAI (Web Accessibility Initiative) and documents of the subject.
Does anyone ever did anything like this, that can give me some good pointers?
Also I would like to ask, if it's very difficult to have some sort of plugin, that allows the "browser" to read some text, like descriptions of pictures, captions, etc...
I am sure my friends will be very happy if I can make this.
THank you very much for your attention.
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:53 AM Re: Website for Blind people
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Hi covenant,

I've found the information here quite helpful: Dive Into Accessibility

I know that you can buy screen readers, and some are referred to in the link above.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:04 AM Re: Website for Blind people
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you may link everithing to audio files. if you have, let`s say, the sentence "mary is good" when the mous cursor is on it.. it should start the audio "mary is good"
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:09 AM Re: Website for Blind people
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How are blind people going to position the cursor with any accuracy?

Not to mention the difficulty of recording every piece of text on the site
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:32 PM Re: Website for Blind people
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I own a new mac and the web Accessibility is very easy to turn on. Just open preferences and then universal access. In there is something you can turn on for web accessibility. then every thing on each webpage is read(aslong as people provide alts to images). This feature also reads every thing on the page and in every application.
I'm pointing this out to make you aware incase your a pc user as I read that blind people are being advised to purchase macs because of these features that pc's lack.

also if you use dreamweaver 8 or mx or need to turn on accessibility features in preferences.

I have a whole article on the matter from the "web designer" magazine issue 116
There is a governing body for this at www.drc-gb.org

other websites in the mag are www.rnib.org.uk - www.accessiblenet.org

It says in the article that we soon my have to make our sites accessible by law.
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Old 08-04-2006, 02:35 PM Re: Website for Blind people
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Yeah its true, non-accessible websites will actually be illegal.

I've done alot of making sites accessible for the blind, as long as screen readers can read the site then you should be ok.

The only thing is, I could understand it if you were making a website for the public and you wanted blind people to be able to use it also, but if its just for two specific friends wouldnt it be easier to just put all the information in a word document and let a reader read that out to them?

Just a thought.
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Old 08-04-2006, 03:06 PM Re: Website for Blind people
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There is a really good book by Jeffrey Zeldman called "Building Accessibly Websites" you might want to look into.

You might also be interested in Webcredible - web usability & accessibility consultancy
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Old 08-05-2006, 07:20 PM Re: Website for Blind people
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There are quite a few good websites out there on the subject of 'accessibility'. There are also a number of ways to get your web site coding checked for correctness. One of these ways is with A-Prompt. It's a program that you can download on your computer to use for your own files. Check it out here: A-Prompt

You can also use Cynthia to validate your code.

WebXact is another place where you can check single pages of web content for quality, accessibility, and privacy issues.

They've helped me quite a bit in my understanding of how to create accessible website for the visually impaired.

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Old 08-05-2006, 09:24 PM Re: Website for Blind people
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Hey covenant,

I'm aim for high accessibility all the time and can outline some of my methods I take to development a quite full on accessible site. It does take a lot longer to develop, but government agencies pay you nicely for going that extra distance (plus it should be law that government sites have to be accessible to everyone though I agree, it should be mandatory for every web developer, personal site, business, whatever).

As for the plugin idea, there's nothing that I know of (there could be such a thing though) but there is what is known as Assistive and Adaptive Technology, that most modern Operating Systems have built in (or you can download/install) which can provide the user with Screen Readers, Screen Magnification, Speech Recognition, etc. You should be able to access this in your Accessiblity Panel, turning it on to test your website would be a good thing to do.

There's many ways you can go about this, my most basic method is develop for a text browser, though I can have images, it's important that the alternative text reflects something relevant. So you should also grab a text browser for viewing the site, this will show clearly how your browser is displaying content that a screen reader would pick up this site.

As with many sites, the navigation is important, but more importantly is the navigation within the page. Always have quick links at the top so that people can skip to certain locations faster (especially the content), this is vitally important, just as most people don't want to wait for sites to load, others don't want to wait for their screen readers to reach the content they're after (though in some circumstances, they have too because of the lack of accessible sites and this is why it's important we cater for everyone).

Once developed for a text browser, you should make a seperate text version of this site, which is just a plain text file. This text version should help you know whether you've developed it as efficient as you can. Especially navigation and wording used. Try to not use action words like click here, etc. Say things like Vists this page, site, etc and always give a bit more information about what it does.

The reason for this is that in the text version, all links, in page navigation, etc should be converted to their URL/URI address. So if you've got click here. Then it would be click http://www.thissite.com/ in which there is no information as to what it does, and you're using an action word that is useless in text versions, and more specifically is talking about a mouse action, when those who don't operate a mouse, may use the enter key as their action or laser pointer, etc. So try keeping away from action words like that. This maybe a bit too much for you to start doing now, but take it into consideration, since I feel it's probably more important for you to get your site finished for your friends, than to take longer than what you expected.

Unfortunately, I've got to run but I'll try to finish more of the development methods off at a later time.

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Old 08-06-2006, 06:10 PM Re: Website for Blind people
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Greetings to all.
I want to make a website for 2 friends that are blind. I've never done anything like this, and allready started to read WAI (Web Accessibility Initiative) and documents of the subject.
Does anyone ever did anything like this, that can give me some good pointers?
Also I would like to ask, if it's very difficult to have some sort of plugin, that allows the "browser" to read some text, like descriptions of pictures, captions, etc...
I am sure my friends will be very happy if I can make this.
THank you very much for your attention.
That sounds good. I had a idea for a website for blind people.

How about have the website make a sound when you access the page like text to speech, then have the webpage make a sound everytime they bump unto a link, or button. That way they can easily navigate without problems.

Like this example:

testlink.com - Then the blind person will hear "This will goto testlink.com click your mouse to go there".

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Old 08-06-2006, 08:55 PM Re: Website for Blind people
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That sounds good. I had a idea for a website for blind people.

How about have the website make a sound when you access the page like text to speech, then have the webpage make a sound everytime they bump unto a link, or button. That way they can easily navigate without problems.

Like this example:

testlink.com - Then the blind person will hear "This will goto testlink.com click your mouse to go there".
I believe that if you're blind, you already have software to do this for you.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:15 AM Re: Website for Blind people
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:26 AM Re: Website for Blind people
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Nice Idea and nice conversation. Keep going guys
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