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**Launchnet** · 03-09-2007, 09:04 PM

We have 2 frames. One on the left side which is a menu. The balance of the screen on the right is our contents page.

The menu comes from www.openoursite.com and the contents comes from www.apitherapy4me.com. Two different websites.

We want the www.apitherapy4me.com website to open on the right side with the menu from openoursite on the left.

When we click on a any menu item, the page comes from www.openoursite.com and we want this page to always replace the then current contents page on the right.

What happens is that the original contents page is not removed and a new window is opened instead, with the linked page. This we can not live with.

When we only open www.openoursite.com everything works fine, because we are getting all the linked menu items from the same website.

We think the problem occurs due to the fact that the first page opened in the contents page is from a different website.

We had it working in IE6, but with IE7 it doesn't work.

Anyone with a solution ????

Thanks from Matt @ Launchnet

**LadynRed** · 03-10-2007, 11:27 AM

First I have to ask, why on earth are you doing it that way ? What is the URL for YOUR site that pulls from these other two ? Do you OWN both sites ?

I hope you're not looking for any presence on the search engines, because with a setup like that you won't get any.

Post the URL for the page you're referring to, or post the code, please.

**habbotothemax** · 03-10-2007, 12:43 PM

whats this about!

**Launchnet** · 03-10-2007, 09:22 PM

Hi LadynRed

We have a large number of small customers with websites that want our menu placed to the left of their site, that sits on the right side of the frame.

Our site is www.openoursite.com
Example of other site(s) to be connected to the right side is:

**Launchnet** · 03-10-2007, 09:36 PM

Hi Again LadynRed

Sorry, but I hit the wrong key and the message was sent before I was finished.

We have a large number of small customers with websites that want our menu placed to the left of their site, that sits on the right side of the frame.

Our site is www.openoursite.com which we own.

Example of other site(s) to be connected to the right side is: www.apitherapy4me.com this is only our test site. This is a site from our hosting company that is working with us on this project and is not owned by us.

If you open our site: www.openoursite.com you will just see our site. We are just starting our marketing portion of the site. Our goal is to have everything cleaned up and working completely in approximately 90 to 120 days.

If you open www.apitherapy4me.com using IE6 everything works fine. Here you will see our menu on the left side and this test website on the right

If you open www.apitherapy4me.com using IE7 the links from the menu opens in a new window each time WHICH IS WRONG and not what we need.

MS agrees that there is a problem in doing this in IE7 but their level 3 team is working on it and they believe that they can do it by changing code at our end.

Hope this answers your questions.

Matt

**travelagent** · 03-10-2007, 11:03 PM

You've posted this identical message on numerous Webmaster forums all day and have been given the solution(s) ... so, why keep asking over and over instead of paying attention to what you've been told already?

**Launchnet** · 03-10-2007, 11:39 PM

Because todate I have not received a solution that works !!!!!

Do you have a suggestion on how to ask in a better way when the solutions don't work? This evening I did just get a new solution that I will be testing Monday.

Thanks
Matt

**Launchnet** · 03-11-2007, 12:04 AM

Yes, I've asked this question on different forums, hoping for a correct answer. Webmaster must have different names if it is appearing more than once. How do I know what other names they use. Don't you think that different forums attract different individuals as well as moderators?

**chrishirst** · 03-11-2007, 04:03 AM

the framset code on the apitherapy site is "broken" after <!--HERE'S THE OLD CODE for starter point.

HTML Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" 
   "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd"> 
<html> 

<head> 
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> 
<title>APITHERAPY4ME.COM</title> 
</head> 

<frameset cols="132,*"> 
   <frame src="http://openoursite.com/mainmenulist.htm" name="menu" scrolling="no" target="showframes"> 
   <frame src="http://apitherapy4me.com/index/" name="showframes"> 
   <noframes> 
   <body> 

   <p>This page uses frames, but your browser doesn't support them.</p> 

   </body> 
   </noframes> 
</frameset> 

</html>









<!--HERE'S THE OLD CODE
<html>

<base target="showframes">


<frameset cols="132,*">
    <frame src="http://openoursite.com/mainmenulist.htm" name="menu" scrolling="no">
    <frame src="http://apitherapy4me.com/index/" name="showframes">
    <noframes><body>
        <!-- Alternative non-framed version -->
    </body></noframes>
</frameset>


</html>
-->

and the code in the menupage is also incorrect

HTML Code:

<a href="stores.htm" target ="showframes"><font face="arial" size="2" color="Green"><B>Market Place</B></font></a><br>

You have a space between "target" and "="showframe". Fix those see if that corrects it.

**dansgalaxy** · 03-11-2007, 06:08 AM

just to be annouying, would this be a bit eaier with php includes?

Dan

**Launchnet** · 03-11-2007, 07:58 PM

To: Dansgalaxy
I know nothing about php. Thanks.

Tomorrow we will evaluate and test chrishirst suggestions.

I have one other suggestion on changing code from a different forum. We will also test that tomorrow.

We are also waiting on MS level 3 to give us the cure which they told me they would do very shortly.

Thanks

Matt @ Launchnet

**Launchnet** · 03-16-2007, 12:25 AM

STILL NOT WORKING . . .

Gentlemen & Ladies:

As you know, it works in IE6, but it does not work in IE7.

Maybe we have left something out in our explanation, so I will try my very best to explain the problem. More than 1 person at Microsoft has agreed that our code was programmed correctly for IE6 and that it worked in IE6. IT DOES NOT WORK IN IE7.

I will explain in the best manner and in the best order that I can.

1. We have a site named: www.openoursite.com and it has worked properly for some time now, using 2 frames, with no errors. Lately, we decided to add some store marketing functions to the site. FIRST SUGGESTION: Open our site and see how the links on the left menu function. They open a new page in the right frame, replacing the existing page

2. The menu page on the left is named mainmenulist.htm and the frame name is: menu. The page name on the right is named mainmenubody.htm and the fame name on the right is: showframes. The frames were constructed using FrontPage, which developed openoursite.htm There is also an index.htm page.

Now, I’ll describe our addition.

3. To test our code, we used one of our existing test sites named: www.apitherapy4me.com . On the index page we added code to the index page that would open mainmenulist.htm from www.openoursite.com and place it in the left frame. Next, we assigned a different website name in the index page of apitheraph4me and it is opened to the right of the menu into the frame named showframes. EVERYTHING WORKS FINE TO THIS POINT. We now have the menu open from openoursite and the website from apitherapy4me.

4. NOW IS THE PROBLEM . . .When you click on an item from the menu, the correct page from openoursite is opened, BUT . . . It is opened in a new window, without closing the existing website in the showframes frame. In IE6 this works correctly. In IE7 . . . It Does NOT.
5. I believe that the coding requirements in IE7 has changed so much that IE6 coding won’t work in IE7.
6. I have also looked at various forums and have found other sites looking to find answers to this type of problem when using frames in IE7.
7. I will supply you with any info that you need.
8. We need this application to work, as our customers are starting to line up and they want to use this application.
9. PLEASE ADVISE ME ON WHAT WE CAN DOTO HELP. . .

If you need any sample code, please ask.

Thanks

Matt @ Launchnet
mrgentrysr@hotmail.com

**Launchnet** · 03-16-2007, 05:44 PM

chrishirst
I removed the space between target and the = sign for all links.

YOU ALSO STATED
the framset code on the apitherapy site is "broken" after <!--HERE'S THE OLD CODE for starter point.

From the <!-- to the closing /html (has a rem closure at this point) So, the old code is rem'd out and can't do us any damage, unless I am missing something.

Thanks

**chrishirst** · 03-16-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

From the <!-- to the closing /html (has a rem closure at this point) So, the old code is rem'd out and can't do us any damage, unless I am missing something.

You are missing something.

There is another comment

Quote:

and the closing comment tag of that negates the earlier opening comment tag and that leaves the rest of the code

Code:

    </body></noframes>
</frameset>


</html>
-->

visible to and rendered by browsers
Look at the way the code box in my first post here has syntax marked the code.

HTML does NOT nest the tags in sequence for closing, the first closing tag it finds will close the element, whether or not it's where you intended to close it OR if there was another opening tag before it.

**travelagent** · 03-16-2007, 07:26 PM

I'd still like to know why you don't just do your site in a 2-column format and stop struggling so much.

**Launchnet** · 03-16-2007, 08:40 PM

chrishirst
I've checked all of the code and rem's that you suggested. Would you be kind enough to look at aprtherpy4me index code again and see if I still don't have it right?

It still doesn't work.

Webmaster Talker

When you see how this all works when we are done, you will understand why we are not using 2 columns. Thanks for your patience.

**travelagent** · 03-16-2007, 09:54 PM

Oh, I see -- you ignore anyone else's advice, and bother someone who's very busy?

IMO -- that's not very intelligent; but you've demonstrated that very well so far...

**Launchnet** · 03-16-2007, 11:42 PM

travelagent - I'm sorry I used Webmasster Talker instead of travelagent when I replyed to your suggestion of using 2 columns. It certainly wasn't done on purpose. Also, I have not ingored other suggestions, with the exception of when someone trys to change me to something else when they don't know the reason for our application as it is.

I was only reporting back to chrishirst on his suggested ideas and possible reasons for it not working.

My understanding of forums is to post problems that possibly others can help resolve. I truly hope this is the reason.

I'm sorry that I might have offended you. Do you think that I shouldn't ask for help on tough questions? I wish I was as good of coder as I am sure you are, as well as, most of the people that reply are. Then again, if there weren't dummies like me, there wouldn't be any reason for forums of this type.

If I have stepped on yours or anyone elses toes for posting here, I would like to know. If so, I will not post any further problems or questions.

**dansgalaxy** · 12:01 PM

dont be put off, just need to get used to how peopel react.

takes a litle while to get the hang of how people on here react and what they like, you will soon find out whos laid back helpful etc and who needs a stress ball... and who not to offend - it could cost TP wise

Lol

Dan

**travelagent** · 03-19-2007, 08:29 PM

Matt - no apology needed, as I stated on another Forum we're both on; but, I did come across something today that may be of interest to your dilemna in IE7 ... check it out

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