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Old 07-26-2006, 11:47 AM Search Engine Optimization Companies
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Hi All,

I am very new to adsense, and I have just launched my new site travelllama. I have submitted to all search engines and am now waiting for a crawl.

What do you guys think of professional companies offering a paid service of around $800 - $1000 to guarantee my site getting a top 10 ranking within 4 weeks? Do these companies really work? Have any of you used such companies? Or are they just a C..?

Also PayPerclink companies offering to run a professional PPC campaign for you, using the latest technology.

I obviously want to gain maximum exposure of my site and achieve the highest ranking in the shortest possible time. I am willing to stump up the cash if it works, but obviously not if it dont.

Any comments or ideas would be appreciated.

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Old 07-26-2006, 12:47 PM
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>What do you guys think of professional companies offering a paid service of around $800 - $1000 to guarantee my site getting a top 10 ranking within 4 weeks?

Sure, there are a ton'of'em. Do a Google search and click on organic or paid ads, send them an email, then stand back.

>Do these companies really work?

Sure they work, somewhat, and at what expense, but guaranteed, NO!

>I am willing to stump up the cash if it works, but obviously not if it dont.

I (we) do a good bit of SEO work, bill by the hour, wait for results, analyze the outcome, then you decide if buying extra hours from us is worth the expense. THE most time consuming and expensive aspect of SEO is garnering quality backlinks; see,

http://www.1stpageseo.com/backlinks.php

We do it for $4.00 / quality link, you can do some, we show you how after forming your link (resources) pages and recommending the reciprocal link sites.

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Old 07-28-2006, 05:53 AM
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I find that doing everything yourself at the start helps you to learn and know the in and out of SEO.

Everyday I am learning new things.

However it may come to a point that you want to hire someone because the do it more efficiently than you or you have run out of ideas.

Also as you make the revenue, you can decide to invest part of the revenue onto less productive activities and use your time on more productive activities.

If it is your first site, I would suggest doing some ofthe hard work yourself. Learn how to fish and you can have fish all the time.
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Old 07-29-2006, 01:56 AM
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If you want to build backlinks, you need to write articles and submit them to directories like ezinearticles.com
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Old 07-29-2006, 04:26 AM
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I honestly think you should just take time with your projects don't try to go all out in the first month.. Build it up with content and then do what you must to get the word out
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:25 PM
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Try to get some backlinks ... once the crawl starts, the rest is history.
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Old 07-29-2006, 07:43 PM
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Don't wory about paying people to SEO your site. Just let it gradually work by itself.
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Waste of money is my opinion. Many of those SEO "experts" who guarantee you a top link placement in 4 weeks are going to rank your site on uncompetitive terms no one will ever use to find you anyway, because it's easy to rank on keywords with little or no competition or interest. That doesn't mean you will stay there once they do get you a ranking or that a ranking on that relatively unpopular keyword will bring you any traffic to speak of.

To keep your site ranking well, you either have to be constantly tweaking or have lots of content so you have more pages that have a chance to rank. So if you want them to keep tweaking it, it's going to cost you more than the initial $800 or whatever it is they charge. That's just the hook to get you in the door.

Many of these firms also use blackhat techniques that have the potential to get your site banned completely a few months later or a year down the road when the search engines catch on, you can count on it, they will sooner or later. So thoroughly check out the firm you are considering using, and ask them about how they plan to get you this guaranteed ranking. And you better at least know enough to be able to tell if what they are planning to do is going to get you in trouble or not down the road.

A lot of firms will give you temporary links on sites they've created especially for that purpose or even unknowingly (to the owner) on other websites they handle. Then later after they have your money and some time goes by, they will unlink you and do the same again with someone else, or the search engines will find out their network is just a link farm and ban the whole thing, including your new site that was involved with it.

There are so many factors that affect rank, I don't think it is possible to guarantee anything on any competitive keywords. Definitely not for the long haul.

When I do hire someone to do a job for me, I usually already know how to do what I want them to do myself, but it's cost effective for me to farm that job out. If I don't know how to do the job, I have no way of knowing if they know how to do it correctly, either.

My advice is learn to do it yourself, and use whitehat techniques, and you will come out far ahead in the long run. Do a search for "SEO tutorials" on any search engine and you will find lots of help. But don't take what anyone says as gospel, read enough to verify that what they are saying is the popular opinion. And enough to know the difference between blackhat and whitehat techniques. The very first place to start is at http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

And if you understand how to optimize your pages for search engines, that will help you when you write your articles in the first place, because you will already know where you need to to put things and how to crosslink to get a good ranking.
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