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**MonkeyBiz** · 10-31-2006, 03:22 PM

I got this email:

Good day,

I am sending you this e-mail today to update you on MaxBounty's
position with respect to advertising on MySpace.

While we have been allowing affiliates to advertise MaxBounty campaigns
through their personal MySpace profiles with the provision that they
were not phishing or spamming other MySpace profiles, our recent efforts
working with MySpace directly has shown that too many people are
breaking the rules. Coupled with the fact that MySpace expressly forbids
commercial activity of any type in their terms of service, we have decided
to change our position on MySpace advertising.

Effective immediately, MaxBounty's affiliate terms and conditions will
be updated to prohibit advertising of any type through MySpace
accounts. This includes, but is not limited to, advertising via bulletins,
comments, mail, profiles or any other area of a MySpace account. Any
affiliate caught violating these terms run the risk of having their MaxBounty
accounts terminated.

Please contact me should you have any questions.

I don't use maxbounty much so it doesn't affect me. But I was thinking of sending out some free Ipod CPA offers via bulletin but now I won't.

It seems as if myspace traffic doesn't convert well for the advertisers which is why maxbounty doesn't allow it.

**Zygoot** · 10-31-2006, 03:25 PM

Does anyone know which CPA networks still accept MySpace bulletin traffic?

**shaggz** · 10-31-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Worldwebuser

I got this email:

It seems as if myspace traffic doesn't convert well for the advertisers which is why maxbounty doesn't allow it.

I'm not sure the reason was the conversion rates. It sounds like myspace contacted them directly. I'm guessing that myspace was investigating phished account bulletins, and finding that many of them linked to maxbounty (and other affiliate companies) cpa ads. Myspace may have threatened them directly, or at least asked them to take proactive measures to stop it.

If we also have legit sites up displaying the ads and use the right redirects, i'm not sure how they could track it unless myspace or a myspace user actually reports an affiliate ID to them.

**GeorgeB** · 10-31-2006, 04:21 PM

Quote:

It seems as if myspace traffic doesn't convert well for the advertisers which is why maxbounty doesn't allow it.

But that's just it... the advertisers don't have to pay unless it converts so I just don't get how that works...

**MonkeyBiz** · 10-31-2006, 04:23 PM

Um not exactly

When a myspace user puts thier email address for a free ipod or xbox type offer they create a conversion, but since they often have no creditcard and are freebie hunters they don't complete the rest of the offer. Therefore the email address or conversion is worthless.

**micahsc** · 10-31-2006, 04:25 PM

What if you directed the MySpace traffic to a landing page, then to the MaxBounty campaign?

**MonkeyBiz** · 10-31-2006, 04:34 PM

Im sure after long enough they will find out. Seems so obvious to set up a java redirect or something but im sure the max bounty team have it covered.

**Zygoot** · 10-31-2006, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micahsc

What if you directed the MySpace traffic to a landing page, then to the MaxBounty campaign?

That may work for a while, until someone from MySpace or one of your "friends" report you to MaxBounty.

**shaggz** · 10-31-2006, 04:48 PM

There are a few things that could be done that would make it very hard to track it down. If done right, I still think the only way to get caught is if myspace or a myspace user takes the time to track down the affiliate program and turns in your affiliate ID.

**motheninja** · 10-31-2006, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldwebuser

Um not exactly

When a myspace user puts thier email address for a free ipod or xbox type offer they create a conversion, but since they often have no creditcard and are freebie hunters they don't complete the rest of the offer. Therefore the email address or conversion is worthless.

not to go off topic, but have you tried doing one of these offers yourself? It's an endless loop with a bunch of other CPA offers. It's such crap. But if the traffic is crap in the first place then I guess this is the right place to send these customers too. But then, these types of programs should expect the ****ty conversions...

**Hobbit** · 10-31-2006, 06:48 PM

Code:

<META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh"
      CONTENT="0; URL=http://affilitaelink.com">

Shouldn't that work?

**MonkeyBiz** · 10-31-2006, 07:05 PM

For awhile. Then maxbounty will find the ref. URL and see that it is a 0 second metaredirect and become very suspicious. I dunno it is a calculated risk. May or may not work.

**YouDidWhat** · 10-31-2006, 09:25 PM

Just change networks. Im a member of cpaempire and copeac, and I could make a phone call for anyone who needs quick confirmation. Interested PM me. I just wouldn't risk it, especially since there are others just as good.

**JP Sauve** · 11-01-2006, 11:23 AM

Hi all. Just a quick post to say that this wasn't a decision we made lightly. We originally allowed people to post ads in their own MySpace profiles which didn't seem unreasonable to us, but it was unfortunately abused by affiliates. For every 'good' affiliate, it grew to where a dozen others where caught spamming and phishing.

If you visit MySpace, you'll see they recently solidified their terms and it specifically says that accounts 'may not be used in connection with any commercial endeavors'. A few people here posted ideas to get around MySpace's no commercial activity policy. Can you do these things? Well you shouldn't, and if you do you'll most likely get caught and be booted from your CPA network of choice. They were just bought by a company with DEEP pockets. I wouldn't be surprised if MySpace decides to make a very visible example of someone and sues big, so you take a fair risk by contravening their terms.

That said, let's take a step back and look at what you're doing when you earn big through MySpace. To earn lots of ad revenue, you need many MySpace accounts with lots of friends... sending ads to these people is essentially spam (do you really have 10,000 friends?), plus this is beyond the fact that you're doing something against their terms. If you don't have these multiple MySpace accounts yourself, but instead buy accounts from others, it's almost certain you're supporting phishers and you're guaranteed to be supporting MySpace spammers. What do YOU think of spammers and phishers? I like to believe most of you wouldn't give the time of day to a spammer, and would probably love to spit on a phisher. If you don't like and don't support spammers and phishers for email, you shouldn't for MySpace either.

So we've adopoted a policy that no MaxBounty advertising is allowed via MySpace.

**MonkeyBiz** · 11-01-2006, 12:34 PM

I understand, but what about bands and pornstars? They sell thier CDs and crap off myspace. Isn't that commercial, yet myspace seems to allow it?

I understand the importatance of maintaining the integrity of your business so your decission to not allow myspace in the promotion of CPA makes sense from a business standpoint.

**shaggz** · 11-01-2006, 01:47 PM

I don't believe bulletins are spam in the standard sense:
When they accepted my friend request, they opted in to my email (bulletin) list. To opt out, they can remove me from their friends list.

Messaging complete strangers who have never requested you is considered spam, in my opinion.

I don't support phishers, and I have never logged into or possessed a phished account. If myspace is going to make an example out of somebody, it will be someone who is a big phisher. Stay away from the phished accounts, and I believe you stay out of the immediate myspace radar.

**JP Sauve** · 11-01-2006, 02:54 PM

Shaggz, perhaps you're right... but it is quite arguable whether MySpace members opted in for your email bulletins. The website and the bulletin service was meant as a means of communicating between friends and like minded people who join groups, and not for ad distribution. Were these people aware they were opting to receive ads, I'm sure they wouldn't have do so. And of course, if they allow it for one member, they'll always have some members who'll do it on 1000 accounts. Either way, what you describe is commercial and breaking their terms since you're making money off your MySpace account.

WorldWebUser... those CD sales. I think that MySpace's terms are very clear in that it's not allowed, however they surely turn a blind eye to non-intrusive types of commercial activity. Selling your own CDs on your MySpace account is probably viewed as OK since the band/porn star has a real MySpace profile which contributes content to the community. MySpace surely views it differently if you're sending bulletins to sell CDs from an empty member profile where the sole intent is to earn off ads, and worse if you're doing it with many different empty MySpace profiles, using adder-bots, and whatever.

**imported_fryman** · 11-01-2006, 03:59 PM

Smart move, I hope every network does this soon so the spamming at myspace finally ends

I must get 10 bulletins per day from spammers with ringtones related crap

**imported_Matt** · 11-02-2006, 04:36 PM

Then delete them ...

You don't have to keep them on your friends list ..

Some people are just stupid.

**imported_fryman** · 11-02-2006, 05:24 PM

I do, dumbass, that is not the point

I guess you must be one of those stupid spammers, huh? No wonder you make 1000 lousy bucks a month