Internet Marketing Tycoon

**Learning Newbie** · 11-21-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by microtekblue

Just think for a moment....If you are syndicating a crappy article...WHY would any Quality and Relevant site want to post it?

YESS you MUST spend a little time and money and writing skills for a GOOD article that you are syndicating...Otherwise you will get back links from the crappy sites...and the Relevant sites that you want wont link to you... becuz you are giving them crap!

And this brings us full circle back to the question of why a person would do quality research and writing labor for another web site for free? If you're going to put in enough time to write quality articles, wouldn't it make more sense to publish them yourself?

**microtekblue** · 11-21-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chrishirst

No it isn't, article writing and syndication etc is part of the wider aspect of Search Engine Marketing.

Heres a newsflash...SEO requires building back links...and there is no better way to build back links than article syndication with keyword researched anchor tags...

Like I said..if you submit crappy articles, then no good site will pick it up.

**microtekblue** · 11-21-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Learning Newbie

And this brings us full circle back to the question of why a person would do quality research and writing labor for another web site for free? If you're going to put in enough time to write quality articles, wouldn't it make more sense to publish them yourself?

Yes that way of thinking is fine..but you need to understand that if you dont have good number of backlinks..atleast 100 or more...then you wont be crawled enough to make a difference when you post original content on your own site!

So throw some GOOD articles on the street and THEN if you feel you can manage to get your new content on your site indexed quickly enough. stop syndicating.

**jamestl2** · 11-22-2007, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by microtekblue

Heres a newsflash...SEO requires building back links...

Alright, here's a newsflash for you, this thread wasn't even posted in the SEO forum, it's in the Misc. Internet Marketing section. SEO has nothing to do with the topic.

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Originally Posted by microtekblue

and there is no better way to build back links than article syndication with keyword researched anchor tags...

Even if it was about SEO, there are plenty of better ways to "get links" than article marketing, such as creating something useful for your OWN site, not someone else's.

**coolslko** · 11-26-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sarpras2005@yah

More than 100 articles posted in over 300 websites with links back to your home site are very effective advertising. One of the main reasons for using articles to promote your website is that in each article, you are effectively creating a link back to your website.

I agree that article submission is really a great way to promote your site as by submitting article to different article submission site gives you the most valuable one way link to your site.

**chrishirst** · 11-26-2007, 04:12 PM

Something that you have control over links to your OWN PAGES is NOT going to be a "valuable" link.

**Cecille** · 11-27-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by coolslko

I agree that article submission is really a great way to promote your site as by submitting article to different article submission site gives you the most valuable one way link to your site.

Yup, I agree with you.. It helps you also build your site's credibility if your article has quality content..

**scorpionagency** · 11-27-2007, 04:18 PM

A quick recap of what we all learned in this thread (For those that missed the prior posts). I always preferred to publish MY articles on MY site.

Here's why:

No duplicate content out there competing with yourself.
Unique content attracting more Organic Inbound Links (Because they can't find it anywhere else).
Getting more direct links to you, rather than people linking to your article in someone else's directory. (Meaning they may get 1,000 IBL's & you still only get that 1 IBL from the article you posted)
Aids in building a Uniquely Robust site filled with Viable content & additional pages to serve as doorways in the SERP's.

You have to realize that these article sites get traffic & organic IBL's because of the content rich articles submitted to them, Not on their own accord. You are what made them popular & in doing so made your article common & far from Unique. Unique is one of a kind that can be found nowhere else, If there is 100 places to find it, then thats 100 more places people can link to besides YOU.

Self Publishing carries the most Long term benefits no matter how you break it down & analyze it.

At any rate, this is my view on articles, But what's my opinion compared to thousands of others. I wish you luck!

**sandbox** · 11-27-2007, 08:37 PM

I second those points "scorpionagency" Article directories perpetuate the myth that submitting your work to their website is good for you. Take an example like ezinearticles who distribute your article to "hundreds" of other sites with your resource box link at the bottom, oh and a link to ezine articles as well. So your article has adsence adverts that pay ezinearticles, a link to ezinearticals as well as yours when syndicated and all you get is a link to your site. You would have to be:

a) Really desperate for any kind of link
b) Really generous
c) Really unimaginative with regards to link building
d) crazy

Submitting articles benefits the article directory not the author, if that's your website promotion strategy good luck...your going to need it.

**ForrestCroce** · 11-28-2007, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by microtekblue

Heres a newsflash...SEO requires building back links...and there is no better way to build back links than article syndication with keyword researched anchor tags...

You're right ... that is a news flash. Fit for The Daily Show or other fake news outlets; there are not one but several better ways to get links.

How many articles do you think Snopes wrote and then syndicated instead of publishing themselves? What about Wikipedia?

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Originally Posted by microtekblue

Yes that way of thinking is fine..but you need to understand that if you dont have good number of backlinks..atleast 100 or more...then you wont be crawled enough to make a difference when you post original content on your own site!

So throw some GOOD articles on the street and THEN if you feel you can manage to get your new content on your site indexed quickly enough. stop syndicating.

I'm not sure how you came up with 100 links as the working minimum to be indexed ... especially without considering where they come from and how large the site they point to is. In any case, getting indexed really isn't a problem.

That's not to say article writing is evil or even a waste of time. I write articles for particular other web sites myself every now and then. They tend to have far more traffic than I get, which means people clicking the links inside them. They're on sites that people who are interested in my work visit; even if some of those people don't look at my site, I have a chance to create a positive impression.

**microtekblue** · 11-28-2007, 08:03 AM

Ok do a test then...create a website...Don't DO any article submissions..and lets see how far your site goes!

In my experience...article syndication works excellent...but ppl just dont understand how to do it properly and think they are giving out content for free...

Article syndication needs to be a combined tactic....if not used then you suck at seo and dont know what you are talking about....

if you look and analyze some of the top ranking sites that take over search markets....you will see the amount of article back links they actually have.....

and stop crying over the duplicate content crap....there will always be duplicate content or similar content on the net about your site, even if you can help it or not....so if you want to cry about making article directories richer...then go ahead and go to textlinkbrokers and buy text links...and just shut up unless you actively syndicate and know what you are talking about...

Also....the WHOLE purpose for article syndication is NOT for directories to pick up your site...but for RELEVANT sites to pick it up and use that article....

I am an expert at making other sites pick up my articles, only because I know how valuable article syndication is...and I know not to submit crappy articles...

So for any newbie out there reading,.....DO not get discouraged with article syndication, as it can become extremely beneficial in your seo.

**gringo** · 11-28-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by microtekblue

Article syndication needs to be a combined tactic....if not used then you suck at seo and dont know what you are talking about....

If you can't contribute in an adult way to this thread then don't bother at all.

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Originally Posted by microtekblue

Ok do a test then...create a website...Don't DO any article submissions..and lets see how far your site goes!

Done. And the web site is doing well thank you, even surpassing my expectations. No article submissions.

**chrishirst** · 11-28-2007, 10:16 AM

Same here, the sites I have that are there to earn money & get sales do that quite nicely thanks.

No article submission needed at all.

**scorpionagency** · 11-28-2007, 04:00 PM

- microtekblue -

I concur with the last 2, I haven't submitted articles at all & the ones I do write I publish on my own site to keep them Unique. My site is also exceeding my expectations & converting just fine.

As I posted in my re-cap, Its not just about Duplicate content, So let's not just focus on one out of the 4 reasons we all learned as to why mass content submission might not be that good of an idea on a long term venue. There are other factors to consider that you lose out on when mass submitting the same content.

At any rate, I wish you the best!

**AnimeFan01** · 11-29-2007, 06:06 AM

don't spam!

**abuzz** · 01-18-2008, 01:37 PM

Too me making articles on over 300 websites would take too long.

**Iknow** · 01-19-2008, 03:30 AM

when I write nice unique content I prefer to keep it for my sites....

actually the best way to promote your sites with some links using content is:

Find a site with some old articles, contact the owner and offer to rewrite one of the articles, use one or to links to your site.
This way you get to have your link on a already indexed page with nice anchor text. The older the page the better.

**wokaka** · 01-19-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cutiger95

Article writing for your website is and extremely useful method to spread your links across the internet.

Each article when submitted are posted to the article directories. These directories generally do not provide the pop that you need but are the foundation to your marketing plan.

Other website owners will pop-in and pull articles from these free article sites with your links inside of them. These links will then come back to your site. So as time moves forward so do your articles.

Blog posting and Forum posting are a quick hit item. But writing and submitting articles will cause a permanent backlink to your site that will only increase with time. So if you can't write get someone to write for you. Article marketing is the one true way to insure permanent links to your site.

I want to explain some points. Some websites will grab your content in article directories? Yes. But they won't provide back links to your site. I have several articles in ezine which all were duplicated by some crappy blogs and websites. These sites 100% copied my content but rejected to put my back links there. It's a common thing now...

**mychelley201** · 02-06-2008, 07:35 PM

I totally agree. Also, when you submit them to high ranking sites like ezinearticles.com, you not only get a link but you get a link that is worth it on a high page rank site.

**chrishirst** · 02-06-2008, 07:54 PM

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you get a link that is worth it on a high page rank site.

Yeah Right!

Reading http://www.webmaster-talk.com/the-go...important.html sound like it could be a good idea.