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PSP8 - colour to b&w, cloning & tinting probs
Old 08-27-2004, 01:58 AM PSP8 - colour to b&w, cloning & tinting probs
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Hi & please help!

Does anyone have the patience of a saint? I'm new to PSP8 and have encountered a couple of problems so far which I can't work out myself with the tutorials/manual. Both relate to tinting a black & white photo using cloning.

Using PSP8, I opened one of my own colour digital pics, changed the image to Greyscale then saved this new Greyscale image under a different name. I closed all open images then re-opened up my new Greyscale image again in PSP8 - then the frustration, sorry fun, began.

As well as the new Greyscale image, I then opened up a second image which was the same photo but in colour (the original), with the aim to use the colour photo to clone colour/tint my new black & white photo.

So, I then followed the "Tinting a Photo" tutorial in "Product Tour - Photo Features" and encountered my first problem.

I set the colour photo as the cloning source but when I began to paint over my greyscale image, two problems occured:
a. It was not cloning colour onto the greyscale, only greyscale shades (the Materials Palette also changed to greyscale)??? and...
b. Although Aligned mode was unchecked, the clone brush tool was painting from the point of the source area realtive to the first point - i.e. it was not copying just the area/same data that I had selected with every stroke - it was copying the whole colour image (but not actually copying in colour as explained in (a) above).

I then became frustrated and changed the photo to greyscale in an entirely different program which then once back in PSP & I'd opened this new greyscale photo, resulted in (a) cloning working as it should but the tool was still not copying from the same data with every stroke, it was copying the entire picture?

I hope this makes sense?? All I want to do is:

Change a colour digital photo to Black & White (or even sepia) BUT, retain a select portion of colour in the photo. i.e. I have a colour photo of a little girl who is wearing a red hat & scarf - I want to change the photo to black and white (or sepia) with the exception of the red hat & scarf which I want to retain it's original colour.


Am I trying to do this the hard way??

Can someone help - I don't mind if you dumb it down for me either!!

Thanks so much.
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Old 08-27-2004, 11:35 AM PSP8 - colour to b&w etc take two.....
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O.K. Feel 6ft tall now as have worked out how to change to greyscale & isolate an existing colour to leave in place - yes I know, it's not that hard for most of you guys - I'll get there!! Doh.

But, I still want to know why I had the two previous problems in my original thread and why I couldn't hand tint etc?
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Old 08-30-2004, 01:37 PM
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The answer to your first question is simple, if I'm reading it right. After you convert your image to greyscale you then have to increase the colors to 16 million. Otherwise you lose the color information when you try to tint the image.

I'm not really understanding your second problem. What do you mean by "copying the whole picture"? And I really don't get what you mean by "it was not copying just the area/same data that I had selected with every stroke - it was copying the whole colour image". You're not selecting a color or an area, just a point that PSP should start copying pixels from.

As to your last question, it might not be the hard way to do what you're trying to accomplish, but there is a better way. I've got a few PSP books at home. I'll run through the appropriate effect and post it tomorrow. It involves selections, which will let you do some really neat things to the color portion, like doing a soft light.
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Old 09-01-2004, 11:26 AM
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Shoot, I can't seem to find that tutorial. It might have been in a magazine. I'll keep looking for it.

I tried something which might help. I copied the image, made it greyscale, and increased the colors to 16 million. Then I copied the second image and pasted it as a new layer on the first one.

On the color image layer I selected what I wanted to be "colorized" in the final image and saved the selection. I deleted the section and switched to the color layer. I loaded the selection and pressed Delete. That portion of the B&W layer "went bye-bye" which let that part of the color layer show through. If you want to soften that part (or do any editing/adjustments/effects to it) you'll have to "select none", switch to the color layer, and load the selection again.

When you're done, merge the layers and save the image. Is that the effect you're looking for?
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Old 09-17-2004, 04:21 PM
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I have the patients of a saint! And are you the same mamabear from acw?

Anyway, another way to tint things, is the change too brush, go into psp, and where the saturation, and it is the one with the rainbow circle and target. It will change anythign to the colour you want, or leave it tinted that way... But not if it is already black and white...
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