Hi,
I am a web designer, and i know Html and Css very well.
Now i started learning jQuery.
Some of my friends told me that, JavaScript is better than jQuery, because jQuery is made up of JavaScript and jquery has lots of unwanted codes.

Please give me suggestions to solve the dielema...

They're not the same thing.

JavaScript is a programming language, and jQuery is a development framework for JavaScript.

You should know JavaScript before learning jQuery.

Working with different toolkits I found that Dojo's docs are not that bad. For example, I have to dive in jQuery's source code on daily basis. Official docs are on dojocampus.org --- no need to go elsewhere. IRC is always about catching right people online. ;-) Sitepen doesn't provide Dojo docs, but it has good articles on Dojo, and you can find more if you google around. The forum was deprecated for a reason --- there is very much alive dojo-interest@mail.dojotoolkit.org mailing list. If you prefer a web interface, use Nabble or Gmane to read/write. Try it.

Dojo is an excellent base for building your own code. jQuery is okay for doing some "standard" things, but when you need very customized UI widgets or other magic, Dojo's functionality is much easier to extend. It also seems a lot of Dojo's codebase is much higher quality than some components in other libraries.

jQuery is a framework written in javascript. Therefore if you can write something like jQuery using javascript it is easy to assume that javascript is better as you could create something better suited for your needs that could potentially be better than jQuery.

Now, what is the real question?

Are you wondering which is easier to use? Which is faster to create things? In general jQuery, as it also makes writing javascript a lot easier and quicker.

Originally Posted by smoseley

They're not the same thing.

JavaScript is a programming language, and jQuery is a development framework for JavaScript.

You should know JavaScript before learning jQuery.

Right jQuery is a library..

You should know JavaScript before learning jQuery.

That's not really true at all. You don't have to know javascript at all to use the jQuery library, you just have to learn how jQuery works, and how to how to manipulate it's many features to get what you want.

Originally Posted by LadynRed

That's not really true at all. You don't have to know javascript at all to use the jQuery library, you just have to learn how jQuery works, and how to how to manipulate it's many features to get what you want.

Somehow, Lady, I think you just like arguing with me for the sake of arguing. You really can't believe what you've typed here.

The key word in my statement is "should". What I post is absolutely what an aspiring developer "should" do if he wants to be a solid developer.

Of course, "should" is not equivalent to "must", which is what you're arguing against (and not what I said). Sure, you "could" ignore the fundamentals of how JS (minus jQuery) is intended to work and try to be an ignorant code monkey learning only the basics of what you need to operate, but then you'll be a crap developer and a one-trick pony... very bad advice to give anyone aspiring to learn the profession.

Oh, incidentally, even if you set out to learn jQuery without learning Javascript first, you'll have to learn at least some Javascript fundamentals in the process (as jQuery IS Javascript). So what I say is "really true" at least a little (if you interpret "should" as "must"), and at most completely (if you interpret it correctly).


Cheers.

According to me JavaScript is the better as compare to jQuery. JavaScript is the scripting language of the Web. It is used in millions of Web pages to add functionality, validate forms, and moreover detects browsers as well as much more.

jquery and javascript can run together... i use both of them equally but mostly i use jquery api's. you should familiarize yourself to javascript to better understand and use jquery.

Javascript is a totally different language - it's almost completely object oriented. You should know both.Which you learn first is your choice. CSS and scripts have nothing to do with each other, either in form, syntax or usage. Knowing any one won't help you with the other 2.

Originally Posted by LadynRed

That's not really true at all. You don't have to know javascript at all

I suppose, there's nobody knows js at all

It's all about performance and development speed. Of course, if you are a good programmer and design something that is really tailored to your needs, you might achieve better performance that if you had used a Javascript framework. But do you have the time to do it all by yourself?
My personal opinion is that Javascript is incredibly useful and overused, but that if you really need it, a framework is the way to go.

Jquery like any other good JavaScript frameworks supplies you with functionality independent of browser platform wrapping all the intricacies, which you may not care about or don't want to care about.

I think using a framework is better instead of using pure JavaScript and doing all the stuff from scratch, unless you usage is very limited.

I definitely recommend JQuery!

Whichever that gets the job done quickly and securely.

Oh and, whichever that comes easier to be read and edited. I think jQuery is the winner here.

JQuery is just a JavaScript library. It can do most things that you would do "by hand" in JavaScript, but not all. I honestly don't see how you could effectively use JQuery without knowing JavaScript.

Now a question for you: WHY did you post this in an ASP.NET 3.5 forum??? It has nothing at all to do with ASP.NET, you know. Unless you think you might write some custom ASP.NET GUI components that would be rendered in the browser via JQuery???

It seems like c and vc,

I will be glad to give an opinion about js/jQuery. I agree that developers should have at least some understanding of JavaScript. jQuery and similar libraries might be a good way to get people interested in JavaScript in general. But in the other hand it might actually be a stumbling block – it’s so easy to use jQuery that many don’t need a deeper understanding of JS.

Lack of knowledge become obvious when developers need to modify/extend some jQuery code. They don’t understand it fully. And then they cry for help. So I’d say it would be better for them to learn a few things about JS and try figure things out themselves. Otherwise, chances are they will never learn.

I am not a js coder some times I have to do something with javascript, (simple dom,css,form operations).
I know php, php syntax is like js syntax. Because of this I know what is how in javascript. So I hate jquery and other frameworks for syntax.
Also I hate all frameworks because everyone can super effects moving everyting on site with animations and professional graphics... because everyone can find million gallery,menu... samples (upload and ready to use) builded with jquery or other...

I put adbrite up on my website in hopes to promote it. A couple things to note: many of the websites that my ad was on, were JUNK sites or were on a .RU (Russian) domain, which would redirect to a .COM. Many of these websites didn’t even have ads on them when I went and manually looked. Several more had “Page coming soon” links throughout the site. Who knows where the traffic was actually coming from (Note the above post about the trojan). The bottom line: ADBRITE IS A SCAM – AVOID THIS AT ALL COST!