I'm not quite sure what to make of this blog thread

http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/ewww-you-use-php/

I've always believed that since PHP5, it's been a worthy language.
Actually I've never seriously considered anything else.

But then I don't have a Computer Science Degree.
It seems a lot of the nerd "elite" still look down on PHP.

When you look at the real world though, it seems that
for better or worse, PHP is the "lingua franca" or working language
of the world wide web.

so what?
I would say "Ewww, you use .NET?"

It's a free world. The {nerd "elite"} can create it's own language.

Despite its popularity, PHP is considered by the programming elite, almost without exception, as one of the worst languages currently in use today.

This is just nonsense. It should say:

Despite its popularity, PHP is considered by a minority of programming elitists, as one of the worst languages currently in use today.

The explanation as to why PHP is 'one of the worst languages' seems to be missing from the article.

The term “good PHP programmer” is considered an oxymoron

Being a good programmer has almost nothing to do with the language you code in.

In my opinion, any stigma associated with PHP is a result of its popularity. When someone wants to learn how to write server side code the majority of them will try to learn PHP. Partially because it is popular, but also because it is less strict than some other languages and easier to jump into. Next thing you know they are passing around their code and selling their 'services'.

This isn't PHP's fault, if RoR or .NET was the most popular platform out there the same thing would happen.

I'm not saying PHP doesn't have its disadvantages, only that the people this article refers to need to get off of their high horse and realize that the majority of the time, if a PHP script isn't cutting it, its because of the person who wrote it, not the language.

Originally Posted by NullPointer

In my opinion, any stigma associated with PHP is a result of its popularity.

It could also be that, since is so popular, there are vast hoards of amateurs turned professionals that turn out spaghetti code as if they're playing with a fun factory. Most of them learned from Wordpress themes, which is like sifting through garbage to begin with.

PHP has a reputation for amateurism because of this, but don't let it reflect badly on the real professionals.

The next time someone tells you that PHP is a bad language, tell them, Don't Be a Dillhole.

Originally Posted by wayfarer07

It could also be that, since is so popular, there are vast hoards of amateurs turned professionals that turn out spaghetti code as if they're playing with a fun factory. Most of them learned from Wordpress themes, which is like sifting through garbage to begin with.

PHP has a reputation for amateurism because of this, but don't let it reflect badly on the real professionals.

That's exactly what I was trying to say.... only better

If anyone asks, that's what I said.

Originally Posted by NullPointer

It could also be that, since is so popular, there are vast hoards of amateurs turned professionals that turn out spaghetti code as if they're playing with a fun factory. Most of them learned from Wordpress themes, which is like sifting through garbage to begin with.

PHP has a reputation for amateurism because of this, but don't let it reflect badly on the real professionals.

Can I quote you like this?

Just convert your PHP to C++

Done. Who needs .NET when you have C++

LMAO

Originally Posted by jim1228

Just convert your PHP to C++

I think what you're referring to is something like hiphop which transforms PHP coding into C++ which can then be compiled.

Originally Posted by jim1228

Who needs .NET when you have C++

LMAO

.NET isn't a language it's a framework. C++ is one of the languages supported by .NET

Originally Posted by NullPointer

I think what you're referring to is something like hiphop which transforms PHP coding into C++ which can then be compiled.



.NET isn't a language it's a framework. C++ is one of the languages supported by .NET

I never said it was. I just said why use Microsoft? hehe.

Yes, they can convert code and then compile it with a compiler.

Invent your own lang for all I care.

Originally Posted by NullPointer

I think what you're referring to is something like hiphop which transforms PHP coding into C++ which can then be compiled.

I own hphpi.com and hip-hop-for-php.com

Nobody visits my URL's, lol

(I know nothing about SEO, lol)


I thought facebook.com was going to buy them from me for Mega Money, lol

A few of you would recommend rolling them back into the registrar, I would not

Originally Posted by jim1228

...Invent your own lang for all I care.

I wanna' see ONE language that does Everything.