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Is Zionist part of a Race, and is Judaism a race?
Old 04-22-2008, 11:08 AM Is Zionist part of a Race, and is Judaism a race?
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Hi guys,

I got this quote from another thread, it made me wonder:

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Please be respectful and avoid incendiary language. With that said, most in here are intelligent enough to distinguish between foreign policy of a nation and inherent qualities of a race. For example, while the Iraq war is a horrible debacle, it's not "racist against Americans" to say as much - it's a criticism of George W Bush's policy.
It made me wonder is Judaism a Race, I mean I thought it was a Religion, if it is a religoun and not a race, how can Zionism be a qualitie of a Religioun that is bein pre-cluded as a race?

Im just kind of really confused on this, Zionism is a political movement, as there are Jewish people out there who oppose zionism. It makes me think that only the zionist people will argue enough to declare it a race so no one can critizise it. Zionism in general means establishing a land for Jews in Israel, how does that not involve Foriegn Policy?

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Old 04-22-2008, 01:15 PM Re: Is Zionist part of a Race, and is Judaism a race?
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Judaism is a Religion; A Jew is a race of people or a person.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:57 PM Re: Is Zionist part of a Race, and is Judaism a race?
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It made me wonder is Judaism a Race, I mean I thought it was a Religion, if it is a religoun and not a race, how can Zionism be a qualitie of a Religioun that is bein pre-cluded as a race?
You've never heard of a Jewish atheist? There are millions. Look into Russian history, particularly during the Soviet Union era.

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A Jewish atheist or atheist Jew is a person of Jewish ethnicity who is an atheist, one who does not believe in God, yet is still a member of the Jewish people. Because Jewishness encompasses ethnic as well as religious components, the term "Jewish atheist" does not necessarily imply any kind of contradiction. Based on Jewish law's emphasis on matrilineal descent, Orthodox Jewish authorities would accept as fully Jewish an atheist with a Jewish mother.
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:56 PM Re: Is Zionist part of a Race, and is Judaism a race?
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Thats like saying theres a "Christian Atheist", with the christian part being an ethnicity, but its not an ethnicity its a Religion so how does that differe from Judaism.

Jewish people come in different skin colours (race), sizes and shapes.

@CheshireCat: A Jew is not a race, its someone who believes in Judaism. e.g. Christian = Christianity ...

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Old 04-22-2008, 07:37 PM Re: Is Zionist part of a Race, and is Judaism a race?
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Well you've obviously made up your own mind, despite all evidence to the contrary. I'm curious - if you've made up your mind and intend to tell anyone who shows you things you (clearly) aren't aware of how your gut tells you they're wrong - why ask the question in the first place?

I don't see you in Wikipedia's talk section telling them how the existence of the article I quoted from is wrong.
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:27 PM Re: Is Zionist part of a Race, and is Judaism a race?
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Have you never heard of a word having more than one definition, each being accurate? For instance, French could be a description of something from France, or the name of a language. Jewish is a word used to describe both a religion and a group of people. Why should that be complicated?
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:37 PM Re: Is Zionist part of a Race, and is Judaism a race?
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Rex this is the second thread you've started on this topic. The first was closed and this one is going to be as well.

This forum really isn't the place for you to do your religious research.
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