Election time is almost coming and i heard so many rumors about the two presidential candidates Obama and McCain. Actually the two are beginning to set the tone for their campaign. A while ago I checked their lastes speeches in clashOrama if you guys watched it already, what do you think about their speeches? Who's who? Who's better?

Originally Posted by josef.m.schumac

What do you think about their speeches? Who's who? Who's better?

We should make elections more like the Miss Universe Pageant. Who better tells us the lies and false promises we so desperately want to hear should be only one part of a multi part competition, including the evening gown competition, the bikini competition, the singing competition and, of course, a wrestling match.

Speaking of semi-useless qualifications of a president, do any of you think we would ever elect another president who is confined to a wheel chair?

Jon Stewart has a few pages in his book about all the reasons why the founding fathers are unelectable in today's atmosphere. This "dumbing down" thing people talk about, it's sort of changed the presidency into a summer movie.

Originally Posted by cbwm

Speaking of semi-useless qualifications of a president, do any of you think we would ever elect another president who is confined to a wheel chair?

Had the 1930s general public known FDR was in a wheelchair, he likely would not have had a political career. I think only 1 photograph exists of FDR in his wheelchair. No film exists that I know of. Though suspicions spread because FDR was never seen standing, except when he supported himself at podiums, arms unmoving. Interesting story, that.

Nonetheless, I'm already tired of election talk. Now that the primaries have "effectively ended," we're now in for the real mud. We'll see once again how hopelessly polarized we are as a nation. Those who support McCain will call Obama supporters hopeless idiots. Those who support Obama will call McCain supporters hopeless idiots. What pointless fun! And in the end the electoral college does the "real" electing anyway. Some argue that America has become too large to support a real functioning democracy. Maybe.

Honestly, once the primaries are over it's best to stop paying attention until after the Olympics. If something major happens you'll hear about it. If nothing but the same back and forth happens for the next couple months no one will remember it come fall anyways.

Originally Posted by ewomack

Nonetheless, I'm already tired of election talk.

That may be because the media got started with this election earlier than almost any other election in history. I feel more apathetic than weary. The honeymoon with Barack is over so, like so many elections before this one, I'll be voting against someone rather than for someone. I'd venture a guess most Republicans, and a healthy portion of the Democrats feel this way too. I'm happy our black population still has a candidate they like and feel strongly about. Its got to be better than apathy voting.

Cynically speaking, there is a bright side. Election mud slinging is far more interesting to me than any sitcom or television show. I can pull up a bowl of popcorn and just wait for the mud to fly and see how the population reacts.

Here is some entertaining fodder to digest.
McCain - Obama - Issue
--33%----50%---- Federal spending will go up if elected
--43%----40%---- Better leader
--51%----37%---- Trust on National Security/Iraq
--44%----40%---- Trust more on economic issues
--28%----45%---- Will raise taxes
--43%----42%---- Holds values closer to your own

Essentially, on every key polling issue, McCain is better liked and trusted. Now for the punch line. Obama is polling at 48% to McCain's 40% since Hilary abdicated (Post Primary bounce). Obviously those numbers will change between now and November, especially now that McCain will be getting more press coverage. The question is, will Obama pull ahead on the issues, or will the popular vote adjust to the reality of how people see him on the issues. Also of interest, as much as McCain is viewed as a moron on the economy, I was surprised to see Obama is viewed as worse.

My money is on McCain. Seriously I have $500 riding on his nose.

just wanna share this thoughts....for me its alright to be a corrupt official as long as i can see the improvement of the economy and development of what our taxes that we paid...i also believe that in our time public service is like a job...

Just thought it was funny to see a paid ad on WMT for McCain...

John (Newbie) is a Mod for WMT.
WMT is advertising for McCain.
John supports WMT
John supports McCain!!! - I knew it John is a republican!

Democrats: Tax and spend
Republicans: Borrow and spend
It's like being asked whether you want to be screwed WITH lube or without.
Whatever happened to upholding the Constitution?
All powers not delegated to the government by the Constitution are reserved to the states, or to the people.
The forces subjugating us have been at work for centuries. "Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes its laws."
Before Lincoln there was no Federal corporation "United States of America", now there is.
The Federal Reserve is charged with controlling inflation, yet it is the source of inflation. They have been given a license to counterfeit since 1971 when our currency lost all backing except "faith and confidence" whatever that's good for.
Even the commercial banks are allowed to conjure money out of thin air by loaning sums above and beyond (as high as 10 times as much) as they have deposits, this is called "fractional reserve banking". They charge interest on this money that did not exist until they conjured it.
The government has gotten in bed with the central bankers, and now politicians can promise the world (and deliver on it!) because they don't have to pay for anything using a method as politically inexpedient as taxation... now they can tax people that aren't even born yet by the magic of INFLATION... the consequences of having too much money and too few goods and services is that the price of everything rises. But since there's a lag, nobody sees the trick and they are off the hook!

Grrrr, I could go on all day... Don't get me started
Let's just say this: IT REALLY MATTERS NOT WHO IS ELECTED AT THIS POINT.
Be prepared to defend your liberty if you don't want to give it up, because it is going to be demanded of you, piece by piece, as it has been for decades to those who have paid attention. Our country is approaching a crisis like we have never seen. That is the time when the fearful voluntarily give up their freedom.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." -Thomas Jefferson

I think it's interesting that clicking Yes or No takes you to the same page, without any argument for or against. So some one who doesn't follow politics closely might click yes and think that means McCain is the man for them?

Originally Posted by Cheshire_cat

Just thought it was funny to see a paid ad on WMT for McCain...

John (Newbie) is a Mod for WMT.
WMT is advertising for McCain.
John supports WMT
John supports McCain!!! - I knew it John is a republican!

I'm so ashamed!