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Old 06-16-2008, 01:09 PM NBC suffers a loss
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No, not talking about the death of Tim Russert, which was unquestionably a loss for that organization. I'm talking about Olbermann/Mathews going over the top as they "Remember Russert" as the dupe they felt he was. It seems MSNBC has stricken the video from their site, but you can still get it here

Like Huffington, who still has a "Russert Watch" section on her website, these two suffer from a severe case of Bush Derangement Syndrome. Unfortunately for NBC, the application of this kind of rant on this occasion will only further drop their ratings and expose Olbermann and Mathews for the biased idiots they are.

Mathews: "We're newsmen, we have the truth". Uh huh.
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I watched this when it was live, that's not the vibe I got from it.

Tim Russert was one of my favorites, he was one of the most unbiast reporters on cable news, at least compared to the other commentators and hosts on msnbc and fox.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:08 PM Re: NBC suffers a loss
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I assume this is about Tim Russert, and yes, he will be missed.

Sadly, this leaves American journalism one step closer to being dominated by hacks like Bill O'Reilly who engage in ambushes and have a vested interest in perpetuating falsehoods.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:20 PM Re: NBC suffers a loss
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I was biased in favor of Tim Russert to begin with - he's from Buffalo and was pretty vocal about his hometown . Not only will his skills in journalism be missed, it's a great loss to his family.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:36 PM Re: NBC suffers a loss
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I watched this when it was live, that's not the vibe I got from it.
Yeh, when I watched it the first time, especially the intro, I felt that Mathews sprinkled enough sugar on the turd to make it fairly tasteless. Granted, it still had that turd aftertaste, but you get that from a lot of what you see on MSNBC. When you watch the clip in rerun on youtube(you can also see it once again on video.msnbc.com btw), you get a chance to digest it more slowly and pickup the full body of the flavor, it really comes across as tasteless

One more thing, and I think it may be tricky to say this, but I'll say it. When we went to war with Iraq, he and I had a little discussion about that, and this is where he is every man. This is where Tim is Mr. or Miss. or Mrs America. He is us as a country. I said, Why.. why.. how can you believe this war is justified, and he said, The nuclear thing. If they have a bomb that they can use, we got to deal with it. We cant walk away from that. And that to me was the essence of the. what was wrong with the whole case for war. They used.. they knew the argument that would sell with Mr. America, with the regular guy, with the true American patriot. They used the argument that would sell, that would get us into that war. Tim was right on the nail, he was us, the American people.
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That was the thing that sold America, and the guys that wanted that war used that one thing that would sell the patriot in Tim Russert.
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Wrong and tasteless on so many levels
1) Takes the "Remember Tim Russert" interview and turns it into an anti-war speech.
2) In attacking the Bush Administration as "selling the every American the war", he is posthumously declares victory in an argument he had with Russert several years ago by calling him one of the many Americans who was duped while he was not.
3) Later praises Russert's interview of David Duke, an event that in Russert's own words was the one time in broadcasting he lost his objectivity.
4) Declares that "journalists" like himself and Olbermann have the market cornered on truth.

The one thing that came across loud and clear, reading between what Mathews said was that Russert and he were not that friendly. He (Russert) was a younger guy, more objective, and had the better job. It wouldn't piss me off so much if those two idiots didn't call themselves journalists.
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