Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Yes, there was no need to so many innocent Japanese CIVILLIANS.
Someone justified it by saying, hundreds of Americans were saved.
So what, every other country starts giving up their lives so that the USA can live?
Why can't it be the opposite?

I asked three questions, you answered one.

1) Will you support Iran when the majority of Iranians won't?
2) Did you support the invasion of Japan in 1944?
3) Do you support the invasion of Afghanistan?

Let me ask a few more. If a neighboring Asian country were to launch thousands of rockets into an Asian nation, would you support their right to invade and subdue their attackers? If an Asian country were to actively seek nuclear weapons and make statements about India saying your government was illegitimate, and needed to be wiped from the face of the earth and the pages of time, would you support India's right to defend itself and avert such genocide before it happened?

Regarding your answers, the one answer you provided was on Japan, citing the killing of Japanese Civilians to save American lives should have been reversed. I think you need to hit your history books again because, although American lives were amongst the lives supposedly "saved" by the invasion, the highest body count supposedly "saved" were those of your fellow Asians the Chinese, who the Japanese had decided it was ok to turn into slave labor and slaughter en masse. If you got to decide who lives or dies... you take Japanese... or Chinese?

Who did you take in the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait? How bout the Korean war North Korea or South? How bout the Iraq vs. Iran conflict that went on for decades? Who you take in a Pakistan vs. India nuclear match up if the U.S. didn't have India's back? Who did you favor in the killing fields of Cambodia? How bout in Myan Mar(Burma), you with the dictatorship, or the civilians and priests? Tibet.... liberty, or oppression by the Chinese? It seems Asians have a penchant for killing and oppressing each other and certainly don't need any help from the U.S.. Do you pick a side in all those fights?

This may sound crass, but I think I agree with your reasoning. While deciding who lives or dies may be somewhat immoral, I agree... better them than us. To believe otherwise would cause you to loose every fight you got into. You clearly feel the same way, its just that in your case, them is America and us is any Asian country, regardless of the circumstances. If you feel that strongly about it, I'm surprised you aren't packing your bags for Iraq to put your money where your mouth is.

I'm not going to bother answering those questions.
Show me proof that Iranians don't support their own country.
And what makes you say that I am embracing terrorism?
You think I would embrace terrorism after losing friends in the 2006 Mumbai Blasts?

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

I'm not going to bother answering those questions.

Heh, wont answer questions, but ask your own. Doesn't sound like a conversation to me. Nevertheless, I will answer your questions.

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Show me proof that Iranians don't support their own country.

from my post above:

Originally Posted by cbwm

The question was hypothetical, although it is clear Iran is turning into a dictatorship as they ousted any moderate candidates from the last election. Dictatorships are usually not supported by the majority of the populace. So I ask again, will you support Iran when the majority of Iranians won't?

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

And what makes you say that I am embracing terrorism?
You think I would embrace terrorism after losing friends in the 2006 Mumbai Blasts?

Unfortunately, I never accused you of embracing terrorism so I can't answer those questions. Since you made the blanket statement that you support any Asian country against the U.S., regardless of the circumstances, I asked some questions to find out where your loyalties lie when the the U.S. isn't involved. Since you won't answer those questions, it seems I can sum up your posts to say you are just generally anti-US. Thus the question as to why you aren't headed to Iraq where you could put belief into action.That doesn't make you a terrorist or a terrorist supporter by the way, just someone who hates the U.S., though I can see why you get defensive about it. Maybe if you answered a few questions about Asian vs. Asian conflicts you could shed the image of someone who just hates the U.S.. Are you anti-Israel as well?

Then what do you call this?


I'm not generally anti-US.
I'm anti-US, when the US pokes its nose here.

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Then what do you call this?

I call that a note attached to a response to the neg TP you gave me for expression of opinion. My earlier words remain accurate. I have yet to accuse you of embracing terrorism, though I'll break that record right here. You back Iran and say its Iran vs. the U.S.. Iran is on the list of state sponsors of terror. Not just the U.S. list of state sponsors of terror, but the world's. Europe spent 5 years trying to talk Iran's leadership out of developing nuclear weapons and when their talks failed, they dumped the problem on the U.N. which, strangely, made it the U.S.'s problem. I suppose you take Iran over Europe as well.

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

I'm not generally anti-US.
I'm anti-US, when the US pokes its nose here.

You mean at the request of Europe and the rest of the free world, including India. Does that make you anti-free world? I think not. Your paycheck likely comes from a business made possible by U.S. legislation created by a Republican. If Senator Obama gets the presidency, he may hold good on the promises he made to his left wing constituency and roll back NAFTA and a variety of other arrangements that allow for U.S. jobs, including tech jobs, to be shipped overseas to places like India. I'm not sure that is the kind of "US poking it's nose" your countrymen would like to see end. It makes suspect your anti-U.S. sentiment was sold to you by CNNI.

And why shouldn't Iran develop nuclear weapons?
If the US can do it, and kill civillians with it, others also can.
I don't have a job, the only earnings I get are from AdSense, and now they are also limited, so I guess, that would make Google Anti-US?
I'm a student, meaning I can in no way have a job.

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

And why shouldn't Iran develop nuclear weapons?
If the US can do it, and kill civillians with it, others also can.

So you are in favor of killing civilians? Who should we start with? Forget going to Iraq, you should lobby your elected leadership with your brilliant ideas, or better yet, run for office on the "killing citizens" platform. You'll find its not very popular there, or anywhere else in the world, just like the idea of a nuclear Iran.

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

I don't have a job
...
I'm a student

Now that makes sense. Blind idealism coupled with a sense of knowing it all with a smattering of self importance and complete disregard for everyone else. I remember that time in my life as well . There is a reason terrorists recruit amongst students. It makes me happy that, although they threaten to, the young don't actually get out and vote very often.

Here are a few tips for you, after which I'll leave you alone since you don't really have anything new to add.

1) Get a job. I had to work my way through school. Things given to you for free you generally don't value, and it creates a mindset of entitlement(you).
2) Have a kid. It will change your entire viewpoint on the world and what is important. You will likely not endorse giving Iran nukes to kill the civilians they said they would like to.
3) Read a few history books. You likely didn't answer my questions about other Asian conflicts because you simply don't know the first thing about them. My guess is that you study computer science or at a Madrassa, neither of which qualify you in the slightest to talk about the subject matter at hand.

Hey, the US was the first country to kill civillians using an atomic bomb.
And NO I cannot get a job, simply because it is illegal for me to get a job before I complete my +2.
I dont study computer science at a madrasa.
Remember these:
Respect the sentiments of all religions.
People don't like it when they are called Islamic terrorists.
[I AM HINDU].
And what qualifications do YOU have?
I have studied a lot in history in my ICSE.
Much more about ASIA than you have.
A Madrasa is an Islamic institue of Religion and not terrorism.
I may be a Hindu, but yes I defend Islam, when people blindly associate it with terrorism.
Calling a madrasa an institue of terrorism gives me equal right to call sunday school at the church an institue of racism and such, but I don't want to as I am not blind like you.

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

I have studied a lot in history in my ICSE.
Much more about ASIA than you have.

Outside of the misquotes and twisting of what I said, I thought this particular line was useful. If you've studied so much, why will you not respond to ANY of my questions about Asian on Asian conflicts? As I said, your failure to answer leaves one to assume, and based on your words, one can only assume you are blindly anti-US.

Originally Posted by cbwm

Outside of the misquotes and twisting of what I said, I thought this particular line was useful. If you've studied so much, why will you not respond to ANY of my questions about Asian on Asian conflicts? As I said, your failure to answer leaves one to assume, and based on your words, one can only assume you are blindly anti-US.

Hey, I studied about Asia till 1947, when India and Pakistan got rid of the British Raj.
All your questions are after that.
Besdies, why should I bother to answer the question when yu said it was hypothetical.
Well, this is the real world, where Iranians are not screwing up the world like you think.

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Hey, I studied about Asia till 1947, when India and Pakistan got rid of the British Raj.
All your questions are after that.

So you know nothing of the bloodshed Asians have inflicted on each other since 1947? Forget history books, you would have to be raised in a closet to know nothing of these matters. Maybe you saw the Olympic torch being protested in almost every country as it passed around the planet? Do you know what that is about?

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Besdies, why should I bother to answer the question when yu said it was hypothetical.

You act like I asked only one question.

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Well, this is the real world, where Iranians are not screwing up the world like you think.

You mean like most of the rest of the planet thinks?

Ya I saw Aamr Khan with the torch..
The whole world thinks hypothetically, IF Iran attacks, etc.
Think reality.

Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Ya I saw Aamr Khan with the torch..
The whole world thinks hypothetically, IF Iran attacks, etc.
Think reality.

Iran says they would like to "Wipe Israel from the face of the map" and then seeks nuclear weapons. It is reality that has me concerned.

Edit: That reality also has most of Europe and Asia concerned as well. Mark my words, if Iran continues down this path, it will be Israel, not the U.S. who attacks Iran. That should be all good in your book since they are an Asian nation as well.