What a bunch of savage, soulless, murderous, braindead, pathetic, immoral, ignorant, disgusting, diseased pieces of turd.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7801657.stm

As if hitler's treatment of jews hasn't provided Zionists every ounce of reason for understanding what nazi, inhumane, child-murdering, woman-murdering, civilian-butchering tosspots they all are.

Not a fan of Israel I take it??

Actually I have always advocated the idea that Israel is trustworthy and can be relied upon to be a co-operative peace partner when Palestine's militants are convinced to lay down their arms.

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I'm sorry. I'm not myself. I have too much personal interest in this right now. I cannot be objective or rational. I am editing out all recent comments I made.

If there is "no" democracy worth supporting, what form a government do you suggest??

A society "ruled by the people" would be a good one. Just calling a system by a greek word which means "rule by the people" doesn't make it that kind of society. I don't know if you have a classical education, but I do: I went to SPS and Oxford and studied much Latin and Greek and know the origins of "democracy" very well.

In ancient Greece where "democracy" started the following people COULD vote:

old men over 40

and the following people could NOT vote:

foreigners
women
slaves
people under 40 and not male and not greek




the people in the latter category were generally one big bunch of "barbaroi".


I'll just get back to work now. You go and donate some money to my arab sisters, please. Then the karma will be good for you and you will be part of my team.

And how do you propose a 'rule of the people'?? One person one vote?? Anyone, man, woman, any race, any color, and religion, 1 person 1 vote.. (say anyone over the age of 18)..

Would that do it for you??

Originally Posted by witnesstheday

What is sick is that democracies are ALL doing this - the USA attacked Iraq in order to appease its right wing voters and muslim haters who were feeling that the failure to do any real damage to Afghanistan was a humiliation for the USA - so they destroyed Iraq and dragged 100,000 civilians to their graves.

I know Feydarkin wanted to say it, but didnt. Wake up and smell the hummus. If you really believe the statement above, or any of the other nonsense you've put to print, you need to put down the hash pipe and grab a hold of this thing called reality.

Regarding Palestine, I'm not a big fan of the zionists, but the Palestinians and the American indians have got to get over it. You better believe that if the American Indians were launching rockets from their Reservations (is Gaza anything more than a reservation for a conquered people?), the Marines would be doing whatever was necessary to eliminate the threat. If the cowards launching those rockets decided to hide behind civilians in churches, we would do whatever was necessary to deal with the cowardly vermin. If you need verification for that simple fact, you can reference the presidential order to shoot down our own civilian aircraft filled with innocent civilians and few terrorist a**holes issued on 9/11/2001.

If you think theft of property(and yes, I know they are still actively "stealing" property) is just cause for terror and attempted murder, you need to revisit your institution of "Higher Education". I'd like to "witness the day" when people like you helped your Arab brothers and sisters by raising money to remove the idiots from power who run Palestine (Hammas) and Iran. If you think raising money to buy another round of rockets to be sent at the "Israeli Agressors" is going to wind up with a liberated Gaza instead of an occupied Gaza, you've lost touch with reality. Iran building nukes, same result.

What we need is to shut down Gitmo and relocate it to a much larger island. I guarantee that removal of those launching rockets from Gaza to a Gitmo style facility will do WONDERS for ending the civilian deaths in Gaza.

Traumatizing children is not what adults do - Israel's government is a bunch of angry murderous children no different to Hamas

id worker diary: Part three


Hatem Shurrab is an aid worker in Gaza with the British-based charity Islamic Relief Worldwide.
In the third instalment of his diary, he writes about the psychological impact of Israel's air strikes on Gaza's children.

GAZA: 30 December
On Saturday, Gazan schoolchildren were supposed to be sitting their exams - schools should have been full. This is exam time but instead of sitting at their desks children hide in their homes.


Sadly, I feel the need for counselling will be greater


The intensity of the bombing is affecting me - but I'm a grown man so what about the children?
I can see how my nephews and nieces are being affected. Tala, my youngest niece, is only five years old. When she hears explosions she rushes to her mother - both are terrified.
A lot of the time, parents try telling their children that the bombing is the sound of thunder, but Gazan children are not ordinary children - they know a bombing when they hear it.
The panic caused by the strikes and the shelling from the sky and the sea has an immense impact on the psychology of Gazan children.
Islamic Relief has been running a project in Gaza for a number of years trying to help children to deal with psychological trauma.
The programme has taken many steps forward, however the current bombing means we will have to start all over again. Sadly, I feel the need for counselling will be greater.
The security situation is getting worse. My colleagues and I make sure we walk to our office - going by car is far too dangerous. We phone the office as soon as we step out of our houses.

More than 60 children and women have died in the Israeli strikes, the UN says

Then along the way we phone the office about four times at specific points - we do this so they know we are safe. Once we get to the office we ring our families to tell them we have made it safely.
This is what life in Gaza is like these days. Even a simple walk to work could be life threatening.
This is why most of the shops and businesses are closed. The safest place to be - if there is one - is indoors. But as humanitarian workers we have to be out in the community, our job is to help people.
We are now communicating with suppliers outside the Gaza Strip. We are trying to prepare for what lies ahead in the coming days.
We do not know if the bombing will stop or if it will get worse - but we have to be prepared and, unfortunately, that means preparing for the worst.

GAZA: 28 December
We are working round the clock now to try and get as much medical aid to the hospitals.
As the bombing continues, the hospitals are reaching breaking point. We are doing our best to source the aid needed from local suppliers and our existing stocks. We have enough at the moment but the way things are going we need to start getting aid in from outside Gaza as stocks will be running out very soon. The hospitals were already low on supplies before this crisis - they can barely cope now.

The urgent need for Gazans will soon be food distribution

Yesterday we delivered five trucks of aid to the ministry of health in Gaza - they then distributed this to five hospitals. The hospitals seem to be the focus of the aid effort at the moment.
We just met the UN and other aid agencies to help co-ordinate the aid effort and make sure there is no duplication.
I can't bear to think what will happen if the bombing continues. There are not enough beds in the hospitals and they are severely short of equipment, including x-ray machines.
But as we go out and asses the damage, we can see other needs. There is a shortage of food and flour and people are rushing to the bakeries but there's not enough bread.
I can't imagine the fuel lasting much longer. Due to the bombings, people are staying in their homes - they are too frightened to venture out. Aid workers are not exempt - the fact that nobody knows when the next bomb will fall makes our job very dangerous.
The shops are closed and so getting food is not easy. Trying to live in electricity blackouts is difficult - so working becomes that much harder.
Soon we will be distributing food as this is going to be an urgent need in the coming days if the bombing doesn't stop. That's our plan but we are now working to make sure we can source what is needed.
Every day is bringing fresh challenges and we have to find ways of dealing with them. The lack of supplies in hospitals, the food shortage and of course the fear that stalks the streets - I only hope and pray that tomorrow is different.
GAZA: 27 December
I was coming home after visiting a friend at 1130 on Saturday, when I heard the horrific sound of three huge explosions. Then a series of explosions rocked Gaza City. I live in the centre near a number of police buildings which were targeted first.
As I rushed home, I saw the main Gaza police station had been destroyed. Suddenly, another missile hit it again and, along with dozens of people nearby, I ran away. When I got home I found almost all the glass from the windows and doors was shattered due to the explosions.
I ran to the Shifa hospital to check on casualties and was shocked by the number of cars and ambulances bringing in the injured. There was panic everywhere.
In less than half an hour, the hospital was full of casualties. There was no space for more, yet the casualties kept coming. At the hospital I saw something I have never seen before - dead bodies outside on the floor. Everyone in Gaza has a relative or a friend killed or injured after these attacks.
Islamic Relief is working hard to get medical aid to the hospitals, which desperately need disposable equipment. We spoke to the committee at the Shifa Hospital to find out what's needed. We are now supplying it with syringes, sponges, surgical gloves and other such equipment.
Hospitals are so overwhelmed that they are now using normal beds for intensive care patients. Everything is so desperate. Only 50% of the ambulances are working. If the attacks go on for another week the doctors are going to have to start using old and traditional ways of treating the injured - that means no anaesthetic. We have to get new supplies in!
For two years, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have been witnessing daily crises over shortages of food, fuel, health services in addition to severe poverty and unemployment. We have seen the closure of crossings and the banning of patients from travelling for medical treatment.
All these restrictions have slowly sucked the life out of Gazans and it's no exaggeration when I say that trying to live daily life is a struggle. But Gaza has not witnessed anything like this onslaught since 1967.
I used to describe what was going on in Gaza as a catastrophe, now I have no words. I received news that the brother of one of my work colleagues has been killed in the attacks. They had been looking for him all day and discovered him under the ruins of a destroyed building.

I guarantee that removal of those launching rockets from Gaza to a Gitmo style facility will do WONDERS for ending the civilian deaths in Gaza.

Are you setting conditions for not killing children?

I'm sorry. I'm not myself. I have too much personal interest in this right now. I cannot be objective or rational. I am editing out all recent comments I made.

israelis also have been bashing up a ship called dignity...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7805075.stm

Hamas SHOULD completely declare a truce and ceasefire and disarm itself and give up all rocket firing equipment, yes, definitely - but that is NOT a requirement needed before ISRAEL STOPS MURDERING BABIES, TERRORIZING AND ATTACKING CIVILIANS in the name of "defence" - these babies and other civilians are NOT A THREAT TO ISRAEL and KILLING THEM IS EVIL.

You didn't answer my question, so I'll ask another..

How do you fight an enemy that hides among children??

I'm sorry. I'm not myself. I have too much personal interest in this right now. I cannot be objective or rational. I am editing out all recent comments I made.

I'm sorry. I'm not myself. I have too much personal interest in this right now. I cannot be objective or rational. I am editing out all recent comments I made.

I asked about a democratic government.. Haven't seen the answer to that..

hamas is an elected party and israel bombed POLICE STATIONS into the dust

Being an elected party justifies firing random rockets in to Israel??

The fact that you have already declared me a Nazi shows just how unreasonable you are and unworthy of discussion with.. If you go back and read what I said you will see that I have expressed no opinion one way or the other on the subject, simply asked you questions about your opinions.. And for that you label me a Nazi.. What does that say about you??

I'm sorry. I'm not myself. I have too much personal interest in this right now. I cannot be objective or rational. I am editing out all recent comments I made.

I'm sorry. I'm not myself. I have too much personal interest in this right now. I cannot be objective or rational. I am editing out all recent comments I made.

I'm sorry. I'm not myself. I have too much personal interest in this right now. I cannot be objective or rational. I am editing out all recent comments I made.

I understand your concern.. I've spent 20 years doing the same thing.. The woman I love has served in the US Air Force and at times I didn't even know what country she was in, let alone if she was safe.. So you can take that argument a do as you like with it..

I have hated no one.. I have bombed no one.. And you are the one behaving unreasonably right now.. You are the screaming in uncontrolled anger.. Anger at people you don't even know..

I'm sorry. I'm not myself. I have too much personal interest in this right now. I cannot be objective or rational. I am editing out all recent comments I made.