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Old 01-27-2009, 05:49 PM Re: More focus on alternative energy cars
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You are sure welcome Steve! We weren't sure this project was going to work very well or much, especially with all the hoopla over it, but we decided to take a chance and try it. We have a big hunky truck (79 Chevy), at times I think we were only getting 8 MPG, but we do need this truck for hauling. There were trial and errors building this project, such as leaks, but that has been all corrected.

Now this is going to be an approximate figure Cbwm, maybe 1/4 cup or less of distilled water and a pinch of sodium hydroxide every 100 miles or so. There is a 50 amp gauge under the dashboard that my husband installed but works the best at 20 amps. I might add this also can be shut off completely by a hand switch and the ignition switch. One could say this goes somewhat like your vehicle battery, how often do you add water to the battery? As for the by products reaction, this answer I am not sure on, only that it comes out the exhaust system as water which goes back into the atmosphere. There has been some problems in this area with these hydrogen boosters trying to pass the emission test, because when the vehicle is being tested there isn't the pollution which would normally be. Therefore, the emission testers are thinking there is something wrong with the vehicle or the testing equipment.

Hydrogen or alcohol was used in the first built vehicles, the first patent for hydrogen was in the 1800's, the second patent was in the 1920's, and more patents after that over the years. In 1970 Jack Nicholson demonstrated on television an Oldsmobile fully converted to all hydrogen, I can't think of the man's name who had this patent but at first was offered millions of dollars for this patent, but refused to give up his patent. Later on he was murdered along with his associates. Hmmmmm, I wonder who murdered him???? But the cat's out of the bag now....
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:24 PM Re: More focus on alternative energy cars
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I hope the guy who was "murdered" you are referring to isnt Stan Meyer. His flavor of the water car is pretty universally discredited as a hoax and a flavor of a perpetual motion machine. His flavor used electrolysis to generate hydrogen from water using current from the alternator, and nothing more. It sounds like your flavor uses a chemical reaction to break the molecular bond of water and release hydrogen and oxygen.

I have to say I'm encouraged by what I'm reading since most people you hear about this kind of stuff from are either trying to sell it, or trying to kill it. It sounds like you have first hand experience using it, and it is working for you. So please permit me a sceptical obervation.

If your 79 Chevy used to get 8 miles to the gallon, that means you used to consume 12.5 gallons of gas to go 100 miles. Now that it gets 22 miles to the gallon, it consumes only 4.5 gallons of gas to go the same distance, meaning it did not need to use 8 gallons of highly explosive petrol weighing approximately 48 pounds.

What is confusing me, is how there can possibly be sufficient energy stored in the oxygen and hydrogen from "1/4 cup or less of distilled water and a pinch of sodium hydroxide" to offset the energy stored in 8 gallons of petrol. I'm not trying to sling mud, only to satisfy my sceptical nature. I used to have a 75 K5 Chevy Blazer with 38 inch tires which got approximately 6 miles to the gallon, and I would have killed for something like this.
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:45 PM Re: More focus on alternative energy cars
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Hydrogen has an energy density of 120 MJ/kg (on average) and petrol has an energy density of 46 MJ/kg (on average) so it's about 1/3 as efficient to start with.. Then you have to take in to account the fact that the internal combustion engine pretty much sucks as a method of converting heat to mechanical energy and the fact that petrol needs to be atomized and hydrogen doesn't and I can see a pretty large energy gain..

Now, how much hydrogen is produced by a pinch of sodium and a cup of water is another issue entirely.. Too bad most of the research I've been able to find mixes metrics to obsucre the results as much as possible..
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:15 PM Re: More focus on alternative energy cars
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:15 AM Re: More focus on alternative energy cars
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When the booster was brand new, the initial fill-up was about 1/2 gallon of distilled water with a teaspoon of sodium hydroxide. On the side of the booster my husband installed a site gauge to let him know when the water was running low, this is when you add some more water along with a pinch of sodium hydroxide to keep the gauge up to 20 amps. Something like adding water periodically to your vehicle battery.

We were very skeptical ourselves Cbwm last spring, with the gas prices rising close to $5 a gallon we decided to go ahead and build this booster. I am not sure if this is the same man or not. I have two more links, one is video on you tube about Jack Nickolson demonstrating the car in 1978, they are using solar power instead of battery power. The second link is where you can download the plans from Smacks for free. They also give you a list of the parts you need to buy from the hardware store, plus some can be purchased at Home Depot/Lowe's.

There are other plans as well, one is using mason jars with baking soda, the problem with this plan is the baking soda tends to clog up the stainless steel welding wire which needs to be cleaned out periodically, also produces a lot less hydrogen. It produces .08 liters per minute of hydrogen where the Smacks produces 1.7 liters a minute.

Thank you Steve for the link, we are going to take a look at that.

http://current.com/items/89549586/bi...1978_video.htm

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Smack_Booster
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:46 AM Re: More focus on alternative energy cars
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Funny that article comes in Pravda. I have a friend who is a Russian scientist who is constantly telling me exactly the same thing. Maybe that is why people are still buying property in Costa Rica while the U.S. market is dead.

I'm wondering what the highest latitude in the U.S. without permafrost will be.... 2012 baby.

EDIT: My wife just brought this article to my attention:
http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php...076-000170.htm
Funny being the president. Al Gore finds out the permafrost is coming and he makes a bunch of money from people who think they can stop it, tries to push a of legislation through to cripple our economy, and gets Hollywood to give him an Oscar. Bush gets his hands on the same information and buys property in Central America. I'm not sure, but that sounds like a pretty class Democrat vs Republican mentality example.
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