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Old 08-13-2010, 05:02 PM What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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Main Entry: 1om·nip·o·tent 1 often capitalized : almighty 1
2 : having virtually unlimited authority or influence <an omnipotent ruler>
A loving God, with unlimited influence, at judgment time, would have no trouble influencing a soul to believe and repent.
That would make the following quote true.

2 Peter 3:9 KJ
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

If God is somehow not able to change the attitude or ideas of the soul, the reason for punishment, then to sent it to eternal torture would serve no purpose and that would mean that punishment would be immoral and no moral God would ever do so.

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For those who believe in everlasting punishment I would ask.

What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?

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Old 08-13-2010, 06:16 PM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:31 PM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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I personally do not believe in god, but i always wondered why if god was so loving and caring then why would he send someone to hell where they would get tortured and stuff like that, it does not make sense to me.
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Old 08-14-2010, 01:33 AM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:04 PM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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The concept of "hell" only exists as a method of scaring the masses into obeying whatever rules get thrown at them, it's a form of mind control
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:26 PM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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I personally do not believe in god, but i always wondered why if god was so loving and caring then why would he send someone to hell where they would get tortured and stuff like that, it does not make sense to me.
Me neither.
Thank God for that, so to speak.

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Old 08-14-2010, 07:28 PM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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The concept of "hell" only exists as a method of scaring the masses into obeying whatever rules get thrown at them, it's a form of mind control
Yep. The old carrot and stick mentality.

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Old 08-15-2010, 01:22 AM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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Old 08-15-2010, 06:19 AM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:37 AM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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My hearing is going.
Was that witches or *****es?

I love my new wife and I love the fact that my first wife has not talked to me since we broke up.

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Old 08-20-2010, 08:03 PM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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Maybe as a reservation for people who claim to believe in something only for their entire lives to contradict it. Know of any?
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Old 08-21-2010, 11:15 AM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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Maybe as a reservation for people who claim to believe in something only for their entire lives to contradict it. Know of any?
Now that would be a dirty trick and quite immoral.

To ascertain if hell would be a moral construct or not, all you need do is answer these
simple question for yourself.
Is it good justice for a soul to be able to sin for only 120 years and then have to suffer torture for 12000000000000000000000000 years?
Is it good justice for small or mediocre sinners to have to bear the same sentence as Hitler, Stalin and other genocidal maniacs?
This might actually include God if you see Noah’s flood as God using genocide and not justice against man. Pardon the digression.
Is it good justice to continue to torture a soul in hell if no change in attitude or actions are to result?
Punishment is usually only given to change attitude and cause the sinner to repent.
If you answered no to the last, then would killing the soul not be a better form of justice than to torture it for not possible good result or purpose?
Is hell moral or not?

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Old 08-22-2010, 07:38 PM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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Now that would be a dirty trick and quite immoral.

To ascertain if hell would be a moral construct or not, all you need do is answer these
simple question for yourself.
Is it good justice for a soul to be able to sin for only 120 years and then have to suffer torture for 12000000000000000000000000 years?
Is it good justice for small or mediocre sinners to have to bear the same sentence as Hitler, Stalin and other genocidal maniacs?
This might actually include God if you see Noah’s flood as God using genocide and not justice against man. Pardon the digression.
Is it good justice to continue to torture a soul in hell if no change in attitude or actions are to result?
Punishment is usually only given to change attitude and cause the sinner to repent.
If you answered no to the last, then would killing the soul not be a better form of justice than to torture it for not possible good result or purpose?
Is hell moral or not?

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I was kidding. My point was that most people that say that they're Christians are actually hypocrites, becauses usually their lifestyles contradict Christianity. But anyway, I don't think anyone would be deserving of a hell.
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Old 08-23-2010, 07:41 AM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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I see wisdom.
Pass on the good thinking.
Be generous, there are many in need.

Are my little question above understandable in terms of generating thought and doubt?

You would be surprised how believers run away from them.

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Old 08-28-2010, 05:33 AM Re: What does an omnipotent God need with a hell?
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I'm a believer. I believe in myself. I believe in truth. But I also believe the Bible is fiction which would make the question moot. however, I suppose if I were an omnipotent god I would want a hell to keep the sheep in line - after all ruling with fear and loathing seems to work ......Either that or it was my secret vacation spot that got discovered because that moron St. Peter kept turning people away at the gate.....




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