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View Poll Results: What do you think of Wikileaks?
It performs a vital service that will hopefully lead to more honest government. 2 25.00%
They are bold and visionary, but it is uncertain what affect this will really have on government. 1 12.50%
They are right in principal, but these countries are too corrupt and will never change. 0 0%
They think they are doing the right thing but are reckless and will put lives in danger. 3 37.50%
They are a criminal organization, no better than terrorists. 1 12.50%
None of the above / other 1 12.50%
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:04 PM What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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I have to admit, the leaked cables have been a fascinating read. Assange is definitely going to go down as one of the most significant people of 2010. I find his arguments for transparency in government compelling, but you have to wonder, how long will he be able to stand up against the pressure of virtually every superpower in the world?
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Old 12-02-2010, 08:05 PM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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I'm all for transparency, but some things are secret for a reason. The core problem is who gets to decide what things need to remain secret and what things the public have a right to know. I don't think Assange is the person who should be the person making that decision. But then again I think we can always count on governments and leaders to be self interested when it comes to controlling information.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:23 PM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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Old 12-03-2010, 04:12 PM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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For a while, http://wikileaks.ch/ was just redirecting to a static IP address, but it seems they're fulling hosting the site on that domain now.
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Old 12-04-2010, 05:15 AM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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I think they are doing good work as some politicians think that they can rule the world.
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:38 AM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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I'm rather surprised that it has taken this long for something like WikiLeaks to emerge. The stink over it is because it is high-profile. Yet in the field of intelligence there is cover in that there is so much information out there. Though it sounds counterintuitive, oftentimes the best place to hide and keep secrets is out in the open. WikiLeaks could also easily be exploited to spread disinformation. No need to DDoS it, WikiLeaks or something like it I believe is now here to stay. If you DDoS it, you're basically saying that there's something there worth blocking.

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Old 12-07-2010, 03:59 AM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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I think that WikiLeaks is very important,

WikiLeaks has had their DNS terminated like many other sites in an effort to sensor the internet.

The question I want to know, will WikiLeaks use P2P DNS ?

I guess for now we can just access WikiLeaks directly from the IP address for updates
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:46 AM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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WikiLeaks could also easily be exploited to spread disinformation.
The problem with that is, there is no guarantee that they will publish fake "leaks" just because they are submitted. The sort of information that governments want the public to know are difficult to mask as secret information, as they are more likely to take the form of what the public is already being told. I suspect this sort of deception has been going on in the area of counter-intelligence for years, however. This just seems like a different ballgame.
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:58 AM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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And to add to the saga

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b0c0682e-0...#axzz17Qjs6Pz3
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And now hackers are doing a DDoS attack against all the sites that denied Wikileaks services: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11935539
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:14 AM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:01 PM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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The problem with that is, there is no guarantee that they will publish fake "leaks" just because they are submitted. The sort of information that governments want the public to know are difficult to mask as secret information, as they are more likely to take the form of what the public is already being told. I suspect this sort of deception has been going on in the area of counter-intelligence for years, however. This just seems like a different ballgame.
Disinformation is something that's gone on for years as a form of counterintelligence. The method of delivery would be all that changes. Disinformation is already "submitted" by other means. It's not just what governments, corporations, and others want people to know; it's BS disguised as what they don't. You can even hide pertinent info in a flood of disinformation and it's a suitable shield.

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Old 12-07-2010, 01:09 PM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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Wikileaks leak the information will always be more than welcome it's a long spread of false information by the government and the contradictions of society because of the risk is considered to be reliable information Internet.As confidential cable leaked to the Daily American. Dissemination of information, as well as accelerate the speed to warp official familiar with the case than it will not be like that, are not meant for publication, the document must be issued more quickly now.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:08 AM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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lol.... now hackers took down mastercard.com ... the saga continues
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:49 PM Re: What do you think of WikiLeaks?
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They are a criminal organization, no better than terrorists, but they are good at what they do, so someone had to stop them.
There is no point in putting people life in danger even if it's the truth.
sometimes you have to hide the truth for the good of people.
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