I am new to running a website and I see alot of PR3 PR4 pages. Can you tell me what it means and how do you get your site to that level? Also If anyone would like to exchange links with me please let me know. I am at http://approvinglowrates.com the site is doing really well.

Hello

I am new as well and i do not know for sure how to get your page ranking highier.

But from what I have learned is that Google has a rating system and if you have the google toolbar you can turn on and off the option to see page rankings.

The better the ranking possibly the better search engine results, but I am not for sure.

Van Gogh and Chrishirst are moderators here and they are very knowledgable and willing to help.

But I am too trying to get better page rankings, but It takes time. But I do not think you should really worry about it as much as getting good content, good links, and keeping updated.

Thanks Chris,

Just added you to my website, I do have the google tool bar and I do see page rank on it however, have no idea what it does ha-ha

Kelly

Let me send you to this topic that i posted here a few days ago. You will see what i mean by how nice the moderators are here and also get an idea of what a google PR is and what is does

http://www.webmaster-talk.com/seo-ta...does-help.html

here's some pr tutorials
http://seoelite.com/HTML_SEOLesson1.htm
and some seo kit/tools
seochat.com

they're not my site

thats a great link thanks

Kelly PR or page rank is a measure of the other web pages that are linking to one of your pages. It's a complicated formula used by Google, but it will be based on the number of links pointing to your page, the PR of the links pointing to your page, and the number of other links on the page pointing to your page.

Basically get more links and your PR will probably go up. I say probably because the PR you see in the toolbar isn't real PR. Google only updates the toolbar PR every few months and they use a different scale on their end. You see 1-10. They might be recording 1-1000 or some other number.

I also say maybe because a lot of webmasters have used techniques to manipulate PR over the years in ways that Google never intended and recently they've been making changes to their algorithms to not always count every link.

Here's a link from Google with a simple explanation of PR and here's a more technical explanation from Ian Rogers complete with formulas.

One important thing to keep in mind is that page rank is not the same thing as where your web pages will rank for a given search. It's one part of the overall algorithm, but because it's able to be manipulated Google has been lessesning the wieght of pure PR in the overall algorthm. It's also important to know that PR is a Google phenonmenon. There is no PR for Yahoo, MSN, Ask, or any other search engine.

you people are great! Thanks for all the info and, I will read up on it through the links you have provided.

Kelly

Ok quick guestion, on link exchanging is it best to have a lot of them or not so many, and do you keep links pertaining to your website or links that might drive you traffic?

Kelly

WebLord, thanks for the link this is very interesting.

Kelly

Kelly when it comes to links more is generally better, but there are no absolutes to anything in regards to seo and where your pages will rank.

The ideal situation is to have one way incoming links from sites that are related to your site in some way. By one way I mean you don't give a link back to the other site. Link exchanges (or reciprocal links) are ok to have, but they should probably be a lower percentage of the overall links coming into your site.

Say you have 100 links pointing to your site. Maybe only 10-15 should be reciprocal link. The numbers are a bit of a guestimate on my part. All 100 links though should be ones where you also link back to a page on the other site.

Deciding where to get links from can be confusing. I like to think of it this way. If you think the visitors to another site would find your site interesting and even better might be likely to click on the link to your site then it's a good idea to have a link to one of your pages on that site.

You also have to be careful with the links you add on the pages of your site. You don't want to link out to just anyone. The search engines can't hold you responsible for the sites that link to you, but they can for the sites you link out to. When you add a link on your site pointing to another site just make sure the site in question has something valuable for your visitors.

I hope that helps. I know it can get confusing so please don't hesitate to ask more questions.

I am slowly starting to understand it. Ok, on my website what I do is run a mortgage website and my home page is http://approvinglowrates.com

Now, if someone where to apply for a loan it will then take them to the site I am affiliated with which is http://lowrateapprovals.com/32106

Now is this ok to do as for linking and getting traffic? What I decided to do was build my own website around the main hub of where the loans go into so that I may have control over it and what I mean is by advertising it, changing up things, adding links, before I had no control. I guess I just want to be sure by linking into our main hub from a different website addy will still draw traffic when I advertise it. Thanks for all of your input on this, you have been a really big help.

The link on your site that goes to the other site is really doing more for the other site than for you as far as PR and traffic is concerned. You're sending people from your site to theirs. Now you obviously make money that way so it's still good for you.

To get more traffic you want to have a link pointing to your site on another site. So let's say I put a link somewhere on my site that pointed to your home page. First that means that some of the people who visit my site will see the link and possibly click on it which means traffic is sent to you. Now my site is about web design and development and things like that. Most of the people who visit my site probably aren't looking for a mortgage when they're on my site so even though that link might send traffic to you it probably won't be a lot.

So the idea is to find sites where the people visiting that site probably do have an interest in getting a morgate. So having a link pointing to your site on a web page that has to do with real estate is going to send more traffic to your site than the same link on my webmaster related site.

Now that's all just talking about people, but the situation is actually pretty similar when it comes to search engines. Search engines want to see links pointing to your site and your individual pages. The search engines will like the link on my site that points to your site, but they'll also like the link on the real estate site pointing to your site even better.

So does that mean you wouldn't want a link on my site? You probably still want that link and if I aksed you if I could put one on my site you should say yes. If I have a form on my site that takes about a minute to fill out and guarantees you a link after you submit it then sure it seems worth it. Bur if that form would take an hour to fill out or if I required you to pay me to place your link on my site, then it's probably better to find another site that will add your link.

Does that make sense? You're looking for other sites that are somehow related to your site that will add links on the pages of their site that point to the pages of your site. That's the ideal situation.

One way you can get a few links pointing to your site pretty fast is to add one in your forum signature. Then everytime you write a new post you'll have another link pointing to your site. This site may not be directly related to your site, but since it's so easy to get the link you might as well add one.

Ok now I am understanding and, I can't thank you enough for taking the time to send me that long email explaining everything. So are you a Van gogh fan? I have a painting of his on my wall howver, I am sure it is not an original

Kelly

Glad I could help. That's what we're all here for. And I am a fan. I have a couple of prints hanging on my wall as well and have even done some of my own drawings based on his paintings. I actually have images of two if you want to see.

The Yellow House (http://www.yellowhousehosting.com/im...ellowhouse.jpg)
Starry Night (http://www.yellowhousehosting.com/im...arry-night.jpg)

I named my business after The Yellow House painting.

thats cool. A Picaso painting sold for a bunch lately, I think

i have a question if I have a free hosting thas it effect on my pgrank!!

only when you decide to be professional and get a proper site. Whatever promotion you did on a free host is left behind.

I just wanted to jump in and say do some article submissions for one way links. It will definitely help boost your traffic Good Luck!

That is a really cool drawing, the picture I have is sunflowers in a vase and on the picture it has a signiture of his but I know it is just a duplicate, I bought it at a garage sale for $2.00

Ok on the one way links does that mean they just add my link and I don't add theirs?

Thanks
Kelly