SEM Tycoon

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Ok, I buy a domain (let say its a ringtones one) and I put a page up that just has links (affiliate?) to ringtones. kind of like a landing page like www FreeRingtoneOffer com? I then purchase things like google ads for keywords of ringtones to generate the traffic? Am I correct?

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Well your best bet is to start with organic optimization. For a keyword like ringtones, you're gonna need a ton of backlinks to get a good organic position in the SERPs.

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so is that why its best to pick a small niche so that its easier to get the organic listings?
Why doesnt the google adwords work, is the turnover rate not high enough?

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Yeah, it's better if you picked a niche. For AdWords, I'm thinking it's because there's a ton of people bidding for the ringtones keyword so you might perform better with something else.

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Yup I second that,

Everyone's jumping into the Ringtones bandwagon because payments are mostly on a CPA basis. Am i right? You can earn money just by having your visitor fill out a form.

The Adwords market for Ringtones is highly saturated and you'll burn more money than you can probably make if you're striving for the positions 1-7 in Adwords. Unless you're an expert, adwords may not be the most effective vehicle for your marketing campaigns

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Would he have a better change of converting if he targeted specific keywords rather than a broad "ringtone" one? Such as "cingular ringtones", "<music artist> ringtones".. etc.

Trying to learn some more here

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I have been following shoemoney's 40,000$ experiment. Thats why I used ringtones as sample.
So to recap, I should find a tight niche (non-saturated). run ads or affiliates on it. Get it ranked high in the organic listings.
Now, if that being true, i would think the key would be also finding a niche with good affiliate or ppc ads? Am I correct?

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Yup! i was a member of wealthy affiliate and if you want I can share with you a free ebook they gave away to their members which i can give a way too it might be of help

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paowiee,

I would be interested in this ebook.

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Here are a couple of resources that may help answer your question. (I left off the http, since I can't post links yet)

This article is in this month's Revenue magazine on million dollar earner Jeremy Palmer. => quityourdayjob.com/revenue_article.pdf

I'd recommend getting a copy of Jeremy's ebook as well. For $50 bucks you get a complete course on affiliate marketing plus he provides great support in his member forum.

Here's an interview Shoemoney did with Kris Jones of Pepper Jam, where they cover starting on a small budget: media.webmasterradio.fm/episodes/audio/2006/NI071806.mp3

I hope this helps.

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From the OVT keyword selector tool...

Count Search Term
1734159 ringtone
437729 free ringtone
176520 mosquito ringtone
125358 download ringtone
55543 cingular ringtone
44527 download free ringtone
34033 download mosquito ringtone
33914 verizon ringtone
29060 nextel ringtone
28747 polyphonic ringtone
28226 cell phone ringtone
25825 free sprint ringtone
24066 sprint ringtone
21341 free nokia ringtone
18808 t mobile ringtone
18380 nokia ringtone
17996 mp3 ringtone
17226 music ringtone
16286 free verizon ringtone
16159 free cingular ringtone
14721 free nextel ringtone
13760 bollywood ringtone
13731 free cell phone ringtone
13230 motorola ringtone

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I would love a FREE eBook. your can PM me if you wish

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Ok rob, so what does this tell us? I take it the count is searches for that keyword right? But what does this mean in the context of this discussion (remember im new to this all :drool: )

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The count is searches on the Yahoo network last month for those terms. Optimizing for a keyword with a higher search count means that you are opening yourself to a more broad source of traffic, but can expect much more competition for a good SERP position. Niche terms generate less total traffic, but may be an easier market to corner and translate into more traffic for you in the long run than you would have gotten trying to get a good spot for a bigger kw.

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Dont expect to make much money if any at all with this method. Even the niche terms are highly competitive, get lots of clicks. You will rpobbaly lose money from the very instant your keywords get approved and thousands of clicks are rendered.

Sure it may work for Shoeoney but you aren't shoemoney.

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my goal is to do something to get my feet wet, make a little money (but a profit) - learn the field, reinvest my profit back into it.
I was't wowed by shoemoneys profits, but rather that he explained what he was doing in details for free.
I would look at any method that folows those ideas and guidelines.
-oj