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**gopher292** · 01-14-2007, 08:35 PM

http://www.laurenbrookefans.com

January 12th: 355 Impressions, 0 clicks
January 13th: 506 Impressions, 0 clicks
January 14th: 272 Impressions (so far), 0 clicks

Audience: 8-16 years old, mostly female.

The ad placement isn't very good and I expected to have a fairly low CTR. But I expected better than that. I wonder if there have been ad clicks but they aren't counting; but I can't click my own ads since it's against the TOS.

How can I increase the CTR?

**Lucas3677** · 01-15-2007, 12:53 AM

Bidvertiser is horrible. If you can, get Google Adsense or YPN.

**casperl** · 01-15-2007, 04:17 AM

I agree Google Adsense and YPN are not comparable with other similar services in terms fo quality and quantity

**KC TAN** · 01-15-2007, 05:20 AM

Adsense will be able to deliever more targeted content

**imported_oddcomments** · 01-15-2007, 08:27 AM

My first thought is that the ads are extremely irrelevent to the content, and therefore the visitor. ...Also, I almost did not see the add. I thought it was part of the content until I went back and looked directly at it.

**beachbumis** · 01-15-2007, 09:16 AM

If the ads don't match the content, then people won't click the ads.

AdSense is not 100%, but better then others.

Michael

**imported_babyboy808** · 01-15-2007, 09:23 AM

Bidvertiser doesnt' have enough advertisers to deliver diverse ads for all it's publishers. I tried Bidvertiser for 2 weeks, and no clicks. I was getting ads for pharmacies and ebooks. Spamy crap...

Try adsense

**.amaZe** · 01-15-2007, 11:37 AM

I use google adsense and it works out well! I make 5-10$ a day with google adsense.. I heard that YPN pays more per click? but I cant sign up with them?

**Moelman** · 01-15-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by .amaZe

I use google adsense and it works out well! I make 5-10$ a day with google adsense.. I heard that YPN pays more per click? but I cant sign up with them?

Yeah, they don't accept everyone since its in beta, but I've heard they have higher payout also. I didn't get accepted..

**gopher292** · 01-15-2007, 06:39 PM

Ok, I went and applied for YPN. :surrender: The reason that I haven't sooner is because I'm under 18 and the SSN might be a problem.

I've gotten 1 click for 25 cents.

January 14th: 376 Impressions, 0 clicks.
January 15th (so far): 247 Impressions, 1 click @ 25 cents.

Total: 1484 Impressions, 1 click, 25 cents.
CTR: 0.0673%
PPC CPM: 16.8 cents.

P.S: Nice viral title, eh? :whistling: :-P

**imported_oddcomments** · 01-15-2007, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopher292

The reason that I haven't sooner is because I'm under 18 and the SSN might be a problem.

I didn't know there were any programs for people under 18. Which ones are available for minors, if you din't mind me asking? My son wants to get involved and I've been hesitant to put him under my name.

**Moelman** · 01-15-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oddcomments

I didn't know there were any programs for people under 18. Which ones are available for minors, if you din't mind me asking? My son wants to get involved and I've been hesitant to put him under my name.

I don't really know of any advertisers that are available for minors. Most all of them ask for your ssn for taxing purposes, and I believe you have to be 18 to fill out tax info.

**gopher292** · 01-16-2007, 03:36 PM

I use bidvertiser because they don't ask for ssn or taxid and when I signed up I didn't see anything about being 18. (Although I just looked through their terms and it does say you have to be 18+. Maybe they changed their terms since I signed up...)

I got a big list of adsense alternatives about half a year ago and checked which ones required ssn/taxid. Most of them didn't. Here are the ones that didn't require a minimum of monthly impressions:

Clicksor
Targetpoint
Bidclix
AffiliateSensor
Bidvertiser
Veoda
Revenuepilot
Nixxie
Clixgalore

I might have a few that only do cpm in there and they might have changed their policies, but it's a start.

**imported_oddcomments** · 01-16-2007, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopher292

I got a big list of adsense alternatives about half a year ago and checked which ones required ssn/taxid. Most of them didn't..

Awesome! Thanks for the help. If they had a "rep" system on this forum, I would "rep" you.

Now all I have to do is sort though them to see which ones won't get my son hooked on pr0n! ;-)

**imported_WillB** · 01-17-2007, 03:20 AM

Personally, I'd put the ads a bit higher on the page, above the fold.
That way they'll get more eyeballs, and perhaps a higher CTR even
though they're mostly totally irrelevant.

**imported_babyboy808** · 01-17-2007, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopher292

I use bidvertiser because they don't ask for ssn or taxid and when I signed up I didn't see anything about being 18. (Although I just looked through their terms and it does say you have to be 18+. Maybe they changed their terms since I signed up...)

I got a big list of adsense alternatives about half a year ago and checked which ones required ssn/taxid. Most of them didn't. Here are the ones that didn't require a minimum of monthly impressions:

Clicksor
Targetpoint
Bidclix
AffiliateSensor
Bidvertiser
Veoda
Revenuepilot
Nixxie
Clixgalore

I might have a few that only do cpm in there and they might have changed their policies, but it's a start.

Clicsor does require "Participating sites must have 5,000 page views per day."

http://www.clicksor.com/publishers_specification.php

**gopher292** · 01-17-2007, 10:02 PM

January 12, 2007: 355 Impressions 0 clicks
January 13, 2007: 506 Impressions 0 clicks
January 14, 2007: 376 Impressions 0 clicks
January 15, 2007: 338 Impressions 1 click -- 25 cents
January 16, 2007: 99 Impressions 0 clicks
January 17, 2007: (so far) 245 Impressions 2 clicks -- 8 cents

I changed to 2 vertical ads instead of 3 horizontal (I think it was the 16th).

I'm not sure why the impressions on the 16th were so low. Maybe American Idol (it airs about the time most visitors are on). I'll try moving the ads up higher on some of the pages and experiment more with ad layouts.

Does anyone have any more suggestions?

Thanks.