SEM Tycoon

**monit0r** · 05-15-2007, 05:49 PM

Well, for me, Its been a long time since I've seen some good clean online marketing.

**handsome rob** · 05-19-2007, 12:55 PM

While the addition of a myspace section to this forum did boost post counts and traffic, I think ultimately it was bad for the forum in the long run.

**Mike** · 05-19-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by handsome rob

While the addition of a myspace section to this forum did boost post counts and traffic, I think ultimately it was bad for the forum in the long run.

I agree. I would love nothing more than to see it removed

People can call it "marketing", or any other buzzword they want to use, bottom line, it is spamming.

I created a myspace site a while back that I was going to use to promote one of my websites with. No big plans, just a page to put information about my site that people could find if they went looking for it. If they found my profile, and was interested in my site, they could go to it. If not, no big deal.
What I ended up getting was a daily dose of annoying friend requests by people wanting to do nothing but have my name to send bulletins to for crap I wasn't interested in. That and emails for all kinds of affiliate crap that I cared nothing about.

It's not marketing, it is spamming and scamming, and it is pathetic an unethical.

**Frito Pie** · 05-19-2007, 08:05 PM

Agree.

**caseyturner** · 06-19-2007, 01:56 AM

MySpace i am not saying its good or bad. i have something going on right now but then again i am a student in college and still learning the whole internet marketing thing. I see MySpace as a chance for basicly us teenagers to make some source income on myspace. The way i do this is not spam at all actually i give out freebies to help people and do not charge or promote affiliates. i build mailing lists for those who are intrested. But i do agree if MySpace wants to get rid of all these spammers then they should make a section somehow that will work for those who want to promote. make some kind of auction section with lots of categories or something.

**johniman7** · 06-19-2007, 12:15 PM

I do believe there could be a legitimate marketing on myspace, but anything like phishing or using programs to send mails I think is not good. I often feel the same way as Frito Pie. I often feel like I should be working on a more concrete business, because I too feel that some day all internet advertising / earning will be considered spammy or not be worth as much because of so many people trying to cheat the systems and make quick cash.

**VTWebProperties** · 06-28-2007, 11:11 AM

I'm a bit surprised by the voracity of this thread, but pleased to see so many folks care deeply about the name affiliate marketers and MySpace promoters create for webmasters in general.

I can see Frito's points and understand where he comes from, but I think the very basic concept of Social Networking is lost. If you run a MySpace profile strictly for the sake of collecting as many friends as possible and spamming with bulletins and comments and such then, yes, it is ugly and perhaps unethical.

If, however, you run your profile as a means of actually connecting with people who have an interest in your product or service - and surgically and methodically cultivate relationships using MySpace I see nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

I have built a friends list consisting of people interested in the subject matter for which I have a related website. I have joined groups and posted useful information (much like posting in a forum) and I have sent an occassional bulletin.

That others abuse the social networks for promises of getting rich, getting free stuff or getting laid is too bad for the rest of us who treat the networks as networks of PEOPLE who deserve to be respected.

**Frito Pie** · 06-28-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GardenHelper

If you run a MySpace profile strictly for the sake of collecting as many friends as possible and spamming with bulletins and comments and such then, yes, it is ugly and perhaps unethical.

Perhaps unethical? Nothing perhaps about it.....

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Originally Posted by GardenHelper

If, however, you run your profile as a means of actually connecting with people who have an interest in your product or service - and surgically and methodically cultivate relationships using MySpace I see nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

No one else said anything about this either. The comments are about the collection of "friends", usually by automated, bot-means, for the purpose of sending spam/affiliate offers.

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Originally Posted by GardenHelper

That others abuse the social networks for promises of getting rich, getting free stuff or getting laid is too bad for the rest of us who treat the networks as networks of PEOPLE who deserve to be respected.

It's beyond that. It has to do with integrity of business. The picture is wider than is painted here as the issue is offline...and...www not just myspace. Myspace concerns just happen to be an example of the gross behavior of society as it pertains to money and scams.

**VTWebProperties** · 06-28-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frito Pie

No one else said anything about this either. The comments are about the collection of "friends", usually by automated, bot-means, for the purpose of sending spam/affiliate offers.

It's beyond that. It has to do with integrity of business. The picture is wider than is painted here as the issue is offline...and...www not just myspace. Myspace concerns just happen to be an example of the gross behavior of society as it pertains to money and scams.

Automated use of social networking isn't social networking at all. It's spamming.

Money and scams .... hand in hand. I would think most folks, however, can relate better to email spamming as an issue than MySpace spamming only because (as another pointed out) getting "friends" really is a choice. I think the days of using social networks for this kind of nonsense are limited, though.

I hope you recognize I am in agreement with the notion that this behavior is a drag. I am simply standing up for those of us who use the tools for marketing but do so in a way no less obtrusive than taking out a newspaper ad or buying text links on another site. If the use of social networks for advertising is something many many people hate then I imagine there may be a decent market for someone creating an ad-free (or at least user-generated ad-free) social networking site. I imagine that to be something that would simply filter out links in posts, comments, etc

**kriscad** · 07-06-2007, 01:46 AM

myspace reminds me of the old days at AOL...

everyone was in a chat room on AOl - up until the spam & phish took over...

look at myspace now... its full of spam and bots... unless they do something to stop it, look and see where myspace will be 10 years from now.

**handsome rob** · 07-06-2007, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kriscad

myspace reminds me of the old days at AOL...

everyone was in a chat room on AOl - up until the spam & phish took over...

look at myspace now... its full of spam and bots... unless they do something to stop it, look and see where myspace will be 10 years from now.

10 years? I'll be flat-out amazed if MySpace is even worth mentioning TWO years from now even WITHOUT the spam.

**GeorgeB** · 07-06-2007, 03:16 PM

I dunno. All those social networking addicts have to go somewhere. Facebook has literally been trying for years to catch up and aren't even close....

First mover advantage is so huge in this particular situation it's going to take a serious marketing campaign to even come close to surpassing them.

So logic dictates that as long as they are the biggest social networking site they're not going anywhere any time soon.

**handsome rob** · 07-06-2007, 05:20 PM

Until the medium changes, or something replaces social networking. That's more what I was referring to.

**knivez** · 07-08-2007, 08:55 PM

I hate myspace spam really. But people are going to continue because there is a lot money in that market.

**the_host** · 07-08-2007, 11:25 PM

I've never ever been on the myspace site. I can proudly say that.. I dont see the point of it. Yeah I could probably make some quick short term money from there but it seems so trashy....

**caseyturner** · 07-12-2007, 12:16 AM

I white hat market on myspace. If the users are intrested they go if not owell. Myspace is full of blackhat spammers these days. yea it might be good but in long run the white hat way gets you more money.