SEO Tycoon

**benydar** · 01-04-2008, 12:32 PM

Hello to all forum members,

My name is beny dar and I have a question about promoting my website.

I'm new at the seo world and I'm trying all methods, one after other to promote my website.

The first one I'm trying in order to create real traffic is buying one way links to my website (which as much as I know will also increase my future pagerank).

I searched for a website that will allow me to automatic put links to my website at a reasonable price (because all the free ones are low quality) , and I found this website www.asalinks.com which seems to be ok for me - because as I readed it allow me to buy links on high pagerank pages immediatly, but I wanted to know if anyone used this website? and what you generally think about buying links from webpages ?

Thank you all,
Beny Dar.

**mmggaa** · 01-04-2008, 12:38 PM

I have in the past however if you want to get traffic from websites, get links on websites by writing content based on your niche and posting it on forums or blogs related to your website. If you want to get higher up search engines then i would make sure you get linked on as many websites as possible realted to your niche and carefully choose the anchor text. I would then make sure your website has good content and you have lots of keywords hidden within your text.

The reason i wouldnt purchase links is that these websites are likely to have loads of outbound links because they have discovered they can sell links on their website for money and are squeesing every last cent out of their website. This does nothing for you because even if you do find a website realted to your niche then your going to get such little contribution towards your pr that it wont be worth the money.

**gringo** · 01-04-2008, 12:39 PM

As Google are vigorously opposed to buying links for PR, it's not a good idea to buy links for this purpose.

Go ahead and buy links to get copious amounts of traffic, but don't bank on your PR going up.

That's not your site is it beny?

**benydar** · 01-04-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gringo

As Google are vigorously opposed to buying links for PR, it's not a good idea to buy links for this purpose.

Go ahead and buy links to get copious amounts of traffic, but don't bank on your PR going up.

That's not your site is it beny?

How google knows that my website is buying links which leads us to the question how google know that the link that I have is a purchased one ????

very interesting

What other ways there are to get quality one way backlinks?

And no - this is not my website LOL

**gringo** · 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by benydar

What other ways there are to get quality one way backlinks?

Write high quality material that naturally attracts links so you don't have to ask for them. That's the whole idea behind a link having any value in ranking.

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Originally Posted by benydar

And no - this is not my website LOL

That's good then. Remember what happened to textlinkads

**ADAM Web Design** · 01-04-2008, 01:40 PM

And what will eventually happen to PayPerPost, ReviewMe, the Vspammin'N network etc. 2008's gonna be a really bad year for "contextual ad networks".

There's nothing wrong with buying links as long as you're buying them for the right reason (i.e. advertising ROI.) SEO is not, was not, and never will be the right reason...it's just something a bunch of SEO idiot wannabes got together and thought up (and to be totally fair, it did work for a while.)

That network clearly sells links for SEO reasons. That's something you'll want to avoid, since you'll end up chasing rainbows in the end.

**benydar** · 01-04-2008, 02:36 PM

Wow I learned a lot over this post already.

What is the method you suggest for getting traffic for my website ? and which websites can bring it to me?

I don't want to write texts, I prefer to pay someone to do this in the right way...

**gringo** · 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by benydar

What is the method you suggest for getting traffic for my website ?

A popular (free) one is ranking in the search engines. Write good content, and structure it well.

You can also try pay per click advertising (e.g. adwords) where every time someone clicks on your link you pay $x. It could be worth it if you're selling something and your revenue > your PPC costs

Links on other sites can send you traffic. People will add links without you asking them to if your content is good enough, but you can also buy links too. It's the links that are bought to artificially inflate your rankings that Google objects to. Links for traffic, no problem.

There are other methods of promotion too like putting a snazzy video on youtube etc.

Your content is integral to any kind of success with the above though.

**Learning Newbie** · 01-04-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by benydar

How google knows that my website is buying links which leads us to the question how google know that the link that I have is a purchased one ????

One indicator is whether the link uses rel="nofollow" or not. Link sellers can lie and not use nofollow, but woe be unto them when Almighty Google finds out. If you buy from one of these link brokers, the best case is that you'll have taken your money in your hand and set fire to it. The worst case is Google will stop trusting your site, and make it radically harder for you to rank for anything.

Here's an interesting fact. All the spammy link sellers Adam mentioned (PayPerPost is my fav) send an average of 0 visitors. That's not exactly a secret, and it's even something a lot of people who buy them know going into it. That's only there to scam Google. But a lot of the legitimate advertising, the PPC stuff that uses nofollow or javascript (either method will not affect search engine rankings) generally does sound send traffic.

**kjs86** · 01-05-2008, 02:57 AM

i have faced the problem of buying links

i bought some links from people and then they realized that other too would be keen in buying and now those sites are nothing more than a messy link farm

**ADAM Web Design** · 01-05-2008, 07:21 PM

And what did you learn from that experience, kjs86?

**dman_2007** · 01-06-2008, 08:22 AM

I don't think there is anything wrong in buying one way links to your site, as long as you're not buying those links solely for the SEO effects that link might have on your site. A simple test to do, which will save you a lot of money in the long run, before buying any backlink to your site will be to assume that buying this backlink won't provide any SEO benefits to your site, now can you justify buying the backlink? if yes then go ahead buy it, if not then save your money for something else.

**submitqueen.com** · 01-06-2008, 01:50 PM

I think that you should buy .. but maybe make it by youreself.

**anand.dongre** · 01-07-2008, 03:37 AM

I totally agree with gringo.

**dotservant.com** · 01-07-2008, 05:39 AM

I am against paid links, but sometimes it is just frustrating watching all those above you in the SERPs are all rank by paid links, pay per post, pay per review etc. I am just not sure how many more years I have to wait before seeing those above me being penalized for doing so....

**benydar** · 01-07-2008, 12:32 PM

I asked asalinks.com about this issue, and they emailed be that they currently removed their links from all of their's publishers websites so google will not connect them to these bought links and therefor nobody can know that these links bought by them because there is no sign to their name.
Is this correct or just some invention tey made?

**ADAM Web Design** · 01-07-2008, 12:52 PM

How would you find the links, benydar? You'd sign up as an advertiser and login, right? Easy enough to do, and it would probably take you about 2 minutes. Then you'd see all the publishers with all their websites; you'd have to, otherwise you wouldn't know what types of sites you'd be advertising on.

Now...if you can do that, and I can do that, and everyone else can do that, then it stands to reason that big G could do that. You think that they'd spend a few minutes to sign a fake company up from behind a proxy server and then perhaps code a crawler to extract the publisher links and give 'em the smackdown? I wouldn't put it past any search engine to do that, and they'd be justified in their actions IMHO.