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Old 12-11-2006, 05:15 AM Two types of SEO's
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There really seems to be two different kinda of people when it comes to SEO. 1) the people who have a

long term strategy with their website who use search engines as one way of getting traffic 2) People who

want to take advantages of algorithm vulnerabilities to maximize short term gains.

The people without long term strategies (those who jump on the latest SEO fad ) are the ones responsible

for the very annoying sites clearly made just for adsense or affiliate programs. Search engine users are

sick of coming across these pages and it reflects poorly on the search engine.
This is why Google will forever do everything it can to weed out this all of this junk.

If you want to make steady, relabel money you and your family can count on, please do everyone a favor

and think of a way you can make a site that is useful to people.

I suspect Google will start to consider visitor behavior more. Asking users "Was this link Useful?" is

one step. I suspect factoring the behavior of people with the google toolbar may become another.

Unfortunately, the fad chasers would just come up with another way to cheat this (short term)

The bottom line is this, the best way to secure yourself a reliable income is to make a useful site.

Attract new visitors. Try to turn them into loyal, repeat customers.

At the moment a lot of people are into writing articles and submitting to hundreds of article

directories. Quite frankly, I don't have any desire to read an article that someone paid a person

overseas $4 to write. If you are one of these people...please start thinking long term. It will make you

more money and you can also have the satisfaction of doing something useful.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:48 PM
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Nice article.
But do you think that some black hat SE spammer who is making about $400 or more with 1 site and keeps pumping sites faster than a SE could index, (calculate the income), it is going to listen?

These sites are a nuisance for us, but pays the black hatters bills and keeps him rich...

In the black hat community they say, "don't make it appealing, make it boring, so people want to get out as soon as possible..."

BTW, I listen to your advise and am a white hat...
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This is why Google will forever do everything it can to weed out this all of this junk.
I have to disagree, alot of MFA sites are doing pretty **** well, and making Google money in the mean time, don't expect to see arbitrage and MFA disappearing for a while.
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Old 12-13-2006, 02:13 PM
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Short term techniques can be real money makers, so I don't fully agree with you. When you can make more money in a few months from grey/black hat techniques than a guy can make in a year from a regular job or the hard work of making a "maybe successful" long term site, I'd say that it isn't necessarily short term!

You can lose a job, your white hat site can lose traffic no matter how good it is, you might not succeed etc. etc. so I hope you've got your savings in place. Few black hats are actually short term - they know the game - the techniques evolve just as the search engines. The skilled black hats still make good money and I'm sure it will be like that for a long time.
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