SEO Tycoon

**Codythebest** · 12-31-2006, 09:03 AM

I have a site mysite.com, 5y/o, no advertising - PR0
I have a file at mysite.com/file, 2 months old, no advertising - PR3

Page rank? yeah right...whatever...

**imported_mikeb** · 12-31-2006, 06:01 PM

I agree 100%
Supposedly, the higher a pages/sites pr, the more frequently it's indexed. I don't buy it. My main index.htm is PR4, down from PR5 and is #2 on G and yahoo for a hugely competitive search term. I have internal pages of PR5 that are nowhwere to be found in the top 50 for serps.

**DLGx** · 12-31-2006, 06:57 PM

Google is a mess, both the SERP and pagerank.

Websites that are complete crap rank the highest and pagerank just rolls back and forth every day since those datacenters seem unable to sync anything.

There was a time years ago when a quick search on google would help you find exactly what you were looking for, nowadays you have to go through a sea of garbage before finding what you are looking for on page 10 or so.

**jakerz** · 12-31-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DLGx

Google is a mess, both the SERP and pagerank.

Websites that are complete crap rank the highest and pagerank just rolls back and forth every day since those datacenters seem unable to sync anything.

There was a time years ago when a quick search on google would help you find exactly what you were looking for, nowadays you have to go through a sea of garbage before finding what you are looking for on page 10 or so.

Thanks to webmasters like us trying to make a buck or two

sama:

**KC TAN** · 12-31-2006, 08:41 PM

PageRank is purely based on inbound links, therefore, your subpage have more links coming to it rather than the homepage.

**Codythebest** · 01-01-2007, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KC TAN

PageRank is purely based on inbound links, therefore, your subpage have more links coming to it rather than the homepage.

Not in this case.
My "mysite.com/file" is a complete other page with no relation with the "mysite.com/index.htm"
It has no inbound or outbound links now.
"mysite.com/index.htm" has few inbound links...

**Gurpartap** · 01-01-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jakerz

Thanks to webmasters like us trying to make a buck or two

sama:

lol :P

**Pearse** · 01-02-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeb

I agree 100%
Supposedly, the higher a pages/sites pr, the more frequently it's indexed. I don't buy it.

I'm not preaching for pagerank but since it is a measure of inbound links and google's spiders follow links, wouldn't it make sense that the higher the PR the more frequently it's crawled?

**jozza** · 01-02-2007, 06:16 PM

one of my sites has been stuck on 4 for a year

**Soultrance** · 01-02-2007, 10:03 PM

My site has been running since the end of July receiving steady traffic of around 600 - 800 unique visitors a day. It's be featured on lots of big blogs, news sites and high PR ranking sites, which have all linked back to my site, yet I still haven't been assigned a PR. I don't get Google's PR system. Some people say it's super important, others say it's meaningless, it's hard to keep track of which makes more sense than the other sometimes.

**Moelman** · 01-02-2007, 10:28 PM

Page rank is more for show than anything else. There are some screwey methods for coming up with your page rank.

**Game Producer** · 01-03-2007, 07:58 AM

PageRank isn't exact quite about the popularity of the site, but it's also not totally useless. I think PageRank could be used as a "guideline" with some other measurements (possibly with traffic stats, Alexa, link counts, Technorati ranks etc.). I think it can be a fast way to determine if a site is popular or not. When I see a site that says "best site for game development stuff" and it has PageRank 1 (yes, I use Google Toolbar) and or see "Digital Point Forums" with PakeRank 7 I can easily tell which one is more likely to be an established site.

After the initial impression, it's quite easy to browse the site a bit to see if it's really unique or not - but in my books Google PageRank provides "fast & easy" information about the site.

But yes... focusing strictly only on "getting high page rank" is probably useless. It does much more good to focus on providing value.

**business ideas** · 01-09-2007, 01:20 AM

I never concern myself with page rank, only on getting a high ranking for targetted keyword phrases.

**sixty6** · 01-13-2007, 09:41 PM

PageRank doesn't mean anything for your SERP's, but it can definitely earn you a couple extra bucks from services like TextLinkAds. It may not depict the exact Google Value, but others use it to see if it has any value at all and then they buy based off of that.

You can also use it to your advantage using co-op networks to get links to your other websites if you don't care about your website's SEO Status.

**DLGx** · 01-14-2007, 03:15 AM

Well pagerank is based on the quality and quantity of inbound links to your site, and those two factors affect the SERP too so they're connected, one just shouldn't pay much attention to the toolbar PR since the real PR and SERP changes all the time.

Google also state that pagerank affects your SERP ranking

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Important, high-quality sites receive a higher PageRank, which Google remembers each time it conducts a search. Of course, important pages mean nothing to you if they don't match your query. So, Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search. Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query.

**Oscar Goldman** · 01-17-2007, 11:36 AM

PageRank is the most hyped and misunderstood of all the ranking factors. But it's just one of 100+ factors, and IMO nowhere near the most important, so don't worry about it too much. And as someone else correctly pointed out, use it as a quick guide only (a snapshot of link popularity).

**timtim2500** · 01-24-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DLGx

Google is a mess, both the SERP and pagerank.

Websites that are complete crap rank the highest and pagerank just rolls back and forth every day since those datacenters seem unable to sync anything.

There was a time years ago when a quick search on google would help you find exactly what you were looking for, nowadays you have to go through a sea of garbage before finding what you are looking for on page 10 or so.

I'll second this... 100% agree.

Tim

**telekinesis07** · 07-12-2007, 09:51 AM

This article might help you. It explains how google page rank works and the factors that can increase and decrease your Google PageRank. Try this: Smart PageRank - PageRank Explained

**Newstin Jan** · 07-12-2007, 11:19 AM

Right, there are so many things. PR really means nothing if your other factors suck.

**Mr. Websites** · 07-13-2007, 12:39 AM

At the very least, websites with a higher PageRank can sell links to other webmasters for some rather substantial figures. Consider, for instance, temporary PR6 or PR7 links being sold individually for a recurring $XXX payment. In addition to this, one should also take into account the revenues derived from other advertising programs (particularly Adsense). Now, if one were to reinvest these amounts into further promotional endeavors, your earnings would increase substantially. Accordingly, I would argue that a website's PageRank is tremendously beneficial for the sheer additional revenue. :closedeyes: