SEO Tycoon

**johniman7** · 09-28-2007, 10:05 PM

1) Sitewide Backlinks - Are they counted as one or many? I look through yahoos list of sites linking to mine and fine hundreds from the same domain. Do all of these count as a "vote" or only one.

2) Google Backlinks - When you type in site: on google it shows much less than yahoo. Is this how googles algorithm works or is it just for user purposes. How to explain... Um, does google only see those listed as "votes" or does it see all the backlinks you have that are on indexed pages but doesn't show them in the site: query for some other purpose. So more or less, if it doesn't show any sites linking to my site in the site: query, does that mean google doesn't think I have any "votes"?

Thanks

**rembrandt** · 09-29-2007, 03:57 AM

Point 1, I think that links from the same domain would count as just one but I'm not 100% sure and unless you work for a search engine company no-one else would know either.

Point 2, Google only give you a random sample of backlink for the very reason that they don't want to give too much away. You have to login to Google's webmaster central and verify your site to view backlinks.

**johniman7** · 09-30-2007, 09:11 PM

Thanks ,rembrant. That is what I thought for #2 i just wanted to verify. Anyone know anything about my first point?

**L2x357** · 10-04-2007, 01:47 PM

Each sitewide link does count, but the way it works is as follows:

A sitewide link won't give you much more juice than one good content link. Because it's not a great determinate of quality. However, if you are competing against a site with say 50,000 backlinks, a sitewide link can help you combat them with in reference to volume. So, they do play a part as far backlinks go, but having quality backlinks is worth more when it's all said and done. The more well rounded your backlinks are, the higher quality of your site. After all, SEO is meant to increase your pages rankings, by simply speeding up a process that should occur naturally, over time, if your site is worth while.

To address the second question:

Google only chooses to show you a certain amount of backlinks, even though they count many more. The reason they have done this is to prevent SEO's from viewing which links they are gaining and which they are not, and therefore teaching them further about how Google's algorithm works. Granted, this isn't the only reason, but it definitely plays a part. If it weren't for Yahoo, then we would have a much harder time trying to figure out which techniques work and which don't.

**johniman7** · 10-04-2007, 05:51 PM

Thank you both, you were very helpful.

**now-or-never** · 10-05-2007, 02:31 AM

I am also not about this but i am expressing my views:

Technically links from a single site count as one vote but if the place from which it is coming will differ...

Let me explain it... If you have different posts on a forum then there is a possibility... but here also this does not help in genuine back links but will help u in getting a better rankings ( Some times not)

If you have backlinks from a single page then it will be counted as one only.
If the anchor texts are different then it will help in rankings but not as backlinks

**L2x357** · 10-05-2007, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by now-or-never

I am also not about this but i am expressing my views:

Technically links from a single site count as one vote but if the place from which it is coming will differ...

Let me explain it... If you have different posts on a forum then there is a possibility... but here also this does not help in genuine back links but will help u in getting a better rankings ( Some times not)

If you have backlinks from a single page then it will be counted as one only.
If the anchor texts are different then it will help in rankings but not as backlinks

The term Sitewide link was used, meaning a link on many pages throughout one domain. It did not mention links to only one page of a domain, however, you are correct in that statement.

As far as forum posting is concerned. You can have multiple pages indexed as backlinks from one forum, and they will count separatley, but it will be the same thing as having a sitewide link. They will provide you a similar amount of juice as a good content link. Anchor text is also very important. There are many factors to determine what makes a link good or not, keep that in mind.

**markov** · 10-05-2007, 11:05 AM

I too agree with the above discussion. when we check the back links they should have different anchor text even though from the same domain.

**imported_brandondrury** · 10-08-2007, 09:28 PM

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1) Sitewide Backlinks - Are they counted as one or many?

My tests have shown that sitewides aren't nearly as effective as a single content link. I can't think of a more unnatural "vote" than placing an outbound link in a site's navigation.

Even if Google hasn't completely banned this, I think they will eventually ditch this. These links certainly aren't futureproof.

Brandon